New Speaker Wire

[Jet-Lee]

Guy at the store said that this new Braided Copper-Free Oxygen wire would enhance EVERYTHING about any stereo/speaker I put it on.

I bought 3 rolls, should be coming in any day.

http://i1.tinypic.com/rump3m.jpg

I'll re-sell it for what I paid for it.

[Maliwho97]

Thats super hilarious. BAHAHA!!!!! Copper free oxygen wire.

[Don Juan]

haha, i dont get it....

[Jet-Lee]

Originally posted by 98Lude@Mar 20 2006, 04:40 PM
haha, i dont get it....
:rofl: :lol: BAHAHAHAHA

[9524tee]

Lol... wow... That was good... :laugh:

Speaking of good speaker wire.... The company Audison that we sell products for just came out with a brand new line of BADASS wires... It's super flexible, this stuff is amazing... Perfect for the installer, so easy to install.. We have done 2 systems with over 30k worth of stereo equipment and used this wire... Oh man, clean sound and the installs were sooo much easier with this stuff... Plus it comes in like 10 different colors, from bronze to black, and they have an optional "frosted" type too, it looks good...

Check it out...

Frosted blue 1 gauge wire (http://www.connectionaudison.com/products/cables/detail01.htm)

[drewgray]

OR you could just use 1/0 welding wire and save a shit load of money, and have stuff that is extremely flexible itself. (It's been awhile since I have put together a system, but last time I did the 1/0 welding wire I bought was like $1.10/ft.)

[00Exploder]

what the hell is that in the pic Lee? I get the humor. I'm just curious what that is.

[Maliwho97]

Its the plastic shield that came off of a piece of wire. Wire is normally labeled as "Oxygen Free, Copper Wire". He reversed it as "Copper Free, Oxygen Wire". Its easy!

[00Exploder]

Yea, I understand the humor of it. I just wasn't sure what that casing was for. Is that speaker wire? I've never seen speaker wire like that with the weaves. (Again, I realize it is only the casing).

[Maliwho97]

THats probably casing off of a 4g. wire.

[00Exploder]

Brock how much would some och (sp?) guage wire run me to run to my amp and everything? Any idea?

[Jet-Lee]

och?

Also, the sleeve is from braided wire, hence the cross-hatching.

[00Exploder]

Lee, thats why there is a "(sp)" behind that. ocht i dunno how to spell it. Its the BIG ASS speaker wire. The stuff bigger than 2 guage.

[Jet-Lee]

ocht?

LOL

I have no fucking clue what you're trying to say, kinda funny.

Just say 1/0 Gauge.

[00Exploder]

Brock knows what I mean. I didn't know the technical measurement for it. I'll look up the word and see what the spelling it. Sound out that word with the "o" making an "aw" sound and the "ch" making a "k" sound and you should get the word.

[Bad Asp]

Double ocht buck shot. OO

The lower the number the biger the wire. So what guage are they laying on the side of the road? -10,000?

J/K

[Jet-Lee]

OH! Like a thirty-ought six?

EDIT- Can also be spelled aught

So Josh, what you're looking for is 1/0, or "one aught". Bigger yet is 2/0, or 00, or two aught, etc.

[00Exploder]

yes, single aught or whatever. 1/0 is what I want. But I need a cap first so i don't draw too much power through it.

[Maliwho97]

I'll get you stinger for $2.00 a foot for 1/0 gauge.

[00Exploder]

Damn, I have a problem, I have NO IDEA where I am gonna run that wire, it won't fit where I have my wire running right now.

[Jet-Lee]

Originally posted by 98Jones@Mar 21 2006, 05:00 PM
yes, single aught or whatever. 1/0 is what I want. But I need a cap first so i don't draw too much power through it.
I don't mean to take business from Brock, but to protect your car.

Don't buy a cap until your vehicles electrical system can support the audio system with no problem.

A cap discharges VERY fast, and recharges the same way.

Say you've got a 2kw amp that dims your lights. You put a cap on there. The amp pulls the power from the cap till there is no more, then the amp starts pulling from the electrical system it was pulling from in the first place. EXCEPT now that cap is trying to recharge as well, and pulling current from the same electrical system. You'll fry your alternator.

Upgrade your alternator, engine ground, charge wires, amp ground, amp hot wire, chassis ground, etc. Get your electrical system to where it won't dim when your subs are turned up fully. THEN buy a cap only to prevent voltage spikes/dips from damaging the equipment you just bought.

EDIT- After re-reading your post, it sounds like you're wanting to use the cap as a resistor, to keep from drawing too much power??? That's not what a cap does, it stores energy, not block it. If you mean it will keep your lights from dimming, refer to the above.

[drewgray]

Just for reference, after 4/0 wire they go to a different standard in sizing, MCM.

[Jet-Lee]

Originally posted by drewgray@Mar 22 2006, 09:15 AM
Just for reference, after 4/0 wire they go to a different standard in sizing, MCM.
Didn't know that. Thanks!

[00Exploder]

I thought a cap put LESS strain on your battery? My system isn't THAT powerful, I just was worried about drawing powere directly from my battery all the time with wire that big. I just figured it would be easier on it, and doesn't a cap always draw power so it won't really run out? As you can tell, this is a part of a sound system that I haven't really researched and don't know much about.

[Jet-Lee]

Originally posted by 98Jones@Mar 22 2006, 10:24 AM
I thought a cap put LESS strain on your battery? My system isn't THAT powerful, I just was worried about drawing powere directly from my battery all the time with wire that big. I just figured it would be easier on it, and doesn't a cap always draw power so it won't really run out? As you can tell, this is a part of a sound system that I haven't really researched and don't know much about.
No, a cap doesn't put less strain on your battery. It evens out the surges, then requires recharging, which puts more strain on the system. If you have a higher output alternator, you won't pull directly from the battery. Using larger wire puts less strain on a system, that's why it's used.

Fill your mouth with water. Stick a coffee stirrer between your lips, now blow all that water out. Do that again except with a regular straw. Which allows for easier flow? Larger wire allows the amp to pull/alt to push the required power easier, with less chance of frying something.

doesn't a cap always draw power so it won't really run out?
How can it pull LESS strain on a system if it's constantly drawing power?

[00Exploder]

well I figure that if it is drawing power gradually that would be less strain on it than drawing all of the power needed all at once all the time.

[Jet-Lee]

It's not.

Adding a draw on an already overdrawn system, hurts it that much more.

I've made my point, and can't illustrate it further. Maybe Brock can comment, if he feels like it, or someone else of the same caliber and/or with equal/greater knowledge on the subject.

[00Exploder]

I'm not disagreeing, cause like I said, I have no idea.

[Jet-Lee]

Oh, I know. I'm just out ways (or too lazy right now) to better illustrate what I'm trying to say.

I've explained it better to someone before, but can't remember who or where to copy it from.

[00Exploder]

I get your point. Constant draw of power, PLUS power for the cap=more power drawn.