Pullied '03 Cobra vs. Camaro SS w/ 100shot

[Bowens99GT]

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pullied 03 vs ss 100shot (http://members.cox.net/time2train/CobraVsSS.wmv)

[John02Hawk]

HMM. . . TAKE A 01' COBRA WITH A 100 SHOT VS A 01' SUPERCHARGED CAMARO SS WITH A PULLEY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. . . HOW MUCH ARE NEW COBRAS AGAIN? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, PUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CAMARO PRICE FOR PRICE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

(CAMARO IS A AUTOMATIC?)

[RedBeauty84ZX]

Originally posted by John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 07:27 AM
HMM. . . TAKE A 01' COBRA WITH A 100 SHOT VS A 01' SUPERCHARGED CAMARO SS WITH A PULLEY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. . . HOW MUCH ARE NEW COBRAS AGAIN? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, PUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CAMARO PRICE FOR PRICE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

(CAMARO IS A AUTOMATIC?)
Very True, then again you can say that for alot of cars.

[FlawleZ]

Originally posted by John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 07:27 AM
HOW MUCH ARE NEW COBRAS AGAIN? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, PUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CAMARO PRICE FOR PRICE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.


That's why you just put the extra dollar or two into a Vette. Z06 pwns 03 Cobra all day stock for stock.

[John02Hawk]

Originally posted by FlawleZ+Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlawleZ @ Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 07:27 AM
HOW MUCH ARE NEW COBRAS AGAIN? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, PUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CAMARO PRICE FOR PRICE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.


That's why you just put the extra dollar or two into a Vette. Z06 pwns 03 Cobra all day stock for stock. [/b][/quote]
the only reason i would buy a vette is because it is faster / a lot lighter . . . besides that . . . many people say that the f-bod's look "faster" than the (C5) corvette.

<_<

[RedBeauty84ZX]

Originally posted by John02Hawk+Apr 6 2004, 01:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (John02Hawk @ Apr 6 2004, 01:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by FlawleZ@Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 07:27 AM
HOW MUCH ARE NEW COBRAS AGAIN? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, PUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CAMARO PRICE FOR PRICE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.


That's why you just put the extra dollar or two into a Vette. Z06 pwns 03 Cobra all day stock for stock.
the only reason i would buy a vette is because it is faster / a lot lighter . . . besides that . . . many people say that the f-bod's look "faster" than the (C5) corvette.

<_< [/b][/quote]
C5's handle like a bat out of hell. :thumbup:

[3rdgenRX7]

are corvettes reliable cars?

[RedBeauty84ZX]

u mean reliable? Well it depends on what you compare them too, and how well you take care of your car.

[3rdgenRX7]

well ive heard the dont make very good daily drivers

[Bowens99GT]

Originally posted by John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 07:27 AM
HMM. . . TAKE A 01' COBRA WITH A 100 SHOT VS A 01' SUPERCHARGED CAMARO SS WITH A PULLEY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. . . HOW MUCH ARE NEW COBRAS AGAIN? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT, PUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CAMARO PRICE FOR PRICE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

(CAMARO IS A AUTOMATIC?)
Whats you talking about?

Both these cars have power......Cobra has maybe 70hp over stock and the Camaro we will say has about 90hp over stock because not all makers of nitrous kits rate their hp gains at the wheels.

I dont see john why you would compare other two cars......made no sense to me....

BTW I've seen maybe vids and I know for a fact that '03 cobra and z06 are almost dead even. :thumbup:

[John02Hawk]

Supercharged/Pullied Cobra vs. NOS N/A LS1 = Cobra wins

NOS N/A Cobra vs. Supercharged/Pullied LS1 = LS1 wins

NOS S/C-Pullied Cobra vs. NOS S/C-Pullied LS1 = LS1 still wins

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2004 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra
MSRP Price Range:
$36,485


2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
MSRP Price Range:
$29,390

Difference: $7,095.00

[Mr. Merk]

my girlfriend's brother's girlfriend is trading her V6 stang (yellow w/ white stripes) for either a yellow Vette convert. or a yellow Cobra convert, what do y'all suggest she do? some of you may know her from shiloh....

[John02Hawk]

Originally posted by MerkurV6Truck@Apr 6 2004, 03:16 PM
my girlfriend's brother's girlfriend is trading her V6 stang (yellow w/ white stripes) for either a yellow Vette convert. or a yellow Cobra convert, what do y'all suggest she do? some of you may know her from shiloh....
http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/96144/yellowcamaross.jpg

What about a Yellow Camaro SS ?

:D

[RedBeauty84ZX]

Originally posted by John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 03:08 PM
Supercharged/Pullied Cobra vs. NOS N/A LS1 = Cobra wins

NOS N/A Cobra vs. Supercharged/Pullied LS1 = LS1 wins

NOS S/C-Pullied Cobra vs. NOS S/C-Pullied LS1 = LS1 still wins

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2004 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra
MSRP Price Range:
$36,485


2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
MSRP Price Range:
$29,390

Difference: $7,095.00
Im with john on this one.

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 04:21 PM
http://community.webshots.com/s/image1/2/80/4/34328004qpDmV_ph.jpg

What about a Yellow Camaro SS ?

:D
dont think that was an option for her...... ^_^

[John02Hawk]

hmmm. . .

http://www.fnsweet.com/pics/events/dfwstangs_041402/yellow_cobra_Black_inlets.jpg

or

http://www.fatherlarryscorvetteshop.com/yellow.jpg

I am assuming you mean a C6. :D :D :D

[FlawleZ]

Well, Vette will ALWAYS have a higher resale value than the Cobra plus I'm going with it's more reliable then the cobra as it's not SC'ed and I've seen too many of the 4.6's that didn't like boost and popped. I also think the Vette's are classier, but that's just opinion.

As far as the MSRP arguement goes, you can't apply that really as a fair argument. The forced induction vs N/A is a fair comparison but if we were to start comparing MSRP then what do you have to say about a freakin Neon, or Civic? $10K+ in one of those and bye bye stang AND camaro.

That's all I have to say. :unsure:

[John02Hawk]

Originally posted by FlawleZ@Apr 6 2004, 07:14 PM
...but if we were to start comparing MSRP then what do you have to say about a freakin Neon, or Civic? $10K+ in one of those and bye bye stang AND camaro.
perhaps, but . . . http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/offtopic.gif

[FlawleZ]

Originally posted by John02Hawk@Apr 6 2004, 07:21 PM
perhaps, but . . . http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/offtopic.gif
I agree. So is the MSRP argument. The N/A vs Forced Induction isn't because that's the difference in the race but MSRP isn't.

[Bowens99GT]

John why you showing him the ugliest mustang and the hottest chevy?

The Cobra has a built engine and can handle upwards of 1000hp.....the 4.6 is one of the most reliable engines made. Look at po po cars and cabs? 200+ K miles? yeah.

and Imma say The cobra would win with the s/c and nitrous but stock for stock the Cobra still wins giving that both cars have same drivers.

and on the prices......The cobras dont ever go for 37k.....most go for around 33k. and We'll say the SS goes for 29k sure.....but with the cobra what are you getting? Built engine, superior handling, supercharger, ect. ect. and how much would a SS/T-A go for with those extra add-ons......hmm....50k possibly? yeah. I'd take the Cobra anyday.

But thats the diff. Johns all out GM, Im all out Ford. Thats just our differences.

[FlawleZ]

Originally posted by Bowens99GT@Apr 6 2004, 07:32 PM
John why you showing him the ugliest mustang and the hottest chevy?

The Cobra has a built engine and can handle upwards of 1000hp.....the 4.6 is one of the most reliable engines made. Look at po po cars and cabs? 200+ K miles? yeah.


:huh: Last time I checked Cops had GM engines in their Caprices, Crown Vics, and Impalas. Doesn't even matter because non of them are supercharged and THAT'S what compromises the reliability of the 03 Cobra.

[Bowens99GT]

Did you read where I said Built engine? means its stronger than stock and made to handle the added boost. we'll see in a few years what kinda miles people are getting on them I guess.

[Bowens99GT]

Originally posted by FlawleZ+Apr 6 2004, 07:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlawleZ @ Apr 6 2004, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bowens99GT@Apr 6 2004, 07:32 PM
John why you showing him the ugliest mustang and the hottest chevy?

The Cobra has a built engine and can handle upwards of 1000hp.....the 4.6 is one of the most reliable engines made. Look at po po cars and cabs? 200+ K miles? yeah.


:huh: Last time I checked Cops had GM engines in their Caprices, Crown Vics, and Impalas. Doesn't even matter because non of them are supercharged and THAT'S what compromises the reliability of the 03 Cobra. [/b][/quote]
well if youve ever seen that the cops use both fords and chevys. Imma say those gm engines gonna go reeaall fast.

[FlawleZ]

Originally posted by Bowens99GT@Apr 6 2004, 07:57 PM
we'll see in a few years what kinda miles people are getting on them I guess.
That we will. ;)

[Bowens99GT]

heres a better comarison(sp?) of a vette and cobra both stock

Cobra
Picture (http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/select2479.htm)

Vette
Picture (http://www.vettepics.com/)

[RedBeauty84ZX]

2003 Mustang SVT Cobra:
Price: $34,995
Miles Per Gallon: 16/24 mpg
Curb Weight: 3665 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: Supercharged V8
Displacement: 4601 cc
Horsepower: 390 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 390 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
0-100 mph: 10.4 sec
Quarter Mile: est 12.9 sec @ 111 mph
Skidpad: .90g
Top Speed: 155 mph (limited)
Braking, 60-0 mph: --- ft
Slalom Speed: --.- mph

Dosnt the Stock C5 run in the 12.9-13.2 range???
Z06's run in the mid 12's if i believe.

Well as far as reliability im not too fond of either. But I would assume that the LS1/LS6 is a more reliable engine vs. the Ford SC 4.6L.

[Bowens99GT]

Ive seen stock 03 cobra run 12.7........Z06 is around the same.

[Mr. Merk]

:o

[5point_Slow]

Ive seen stock 03 cobra run 12.7........
MM&FF ran a 12.43 with a stock 03 cobra. The only drive fords and mostly stangs tho so they have an advantage over most test drivers with the driving style of the mustang. I do like the gas milage on an LS1 tho :thumbup:
Horsepower: 390 bhp @ 6000 rpm
There very under rated. There really pushing more like 425. Too bad they dont lift the wheels off the ground :( Must be why everytime someone asks me why i said something stupid i tell them i drive a ford..........

[FlawleZ]

Yes, the 03 Cobra is underrated. So is the LS1.

Just like you see some Cobra's running 12.43's stock, there are F-bods pulling 12.9-12.8's stock. (That's with a 100 less HP too.) Therefore if a "rated 320 HP", heavy F-bod can pull those times, what would the much lighter, more powerful Z06 be capable of? I believe LS1's average around 280-290 RWHP for the autos and around 300 RWHP for the 6 spd. The LS6 averages around 360-370 RWHP.

[Mr. Merk]

so....


for a highschool girl who will most likely do no modsm nothing serious i am sure

cobra or vette?

[RedBeauty84ZX]

Originally posted by FlawleZ@Apr 7 2004, 04:47 PM
there are F-bods pulling 12.9-12.8's stock.
Theres only been 1 Fbody to pull a 12.9 stock, and it had K&N so it technically wasnt even stock. The fastest all stock ran a 13.2.

Top 100 Fastest LS1's (http://www.ls1.com/qtrmile1.htm)

[Triepsyn]

Originally posted by MerkurV6Truck@Apr 8 2004, 02:35 AM
so....


for a highschool girl who will most likely do no modsm nothing serious i am sure

cobra or vette?

Cobra. More common, easier/cheaper parts, plus the girlies love Mustangs. I actually would just suggest a GT Mustang or even a V6 if she's on a lower budget.

The 'Vette is cool if she has the money for upkeep.. :D

Although the interior of the V6 camaro is much more durable and nicer altogether.. Depends on what different aspects of a car she's looking tentively for.. :)

[Mr. Merk]

she has a brand new V6 stang right now w/ racing stripes and euro tails, yeyah :thumbup:

[Bowens99GT]

Originally posted by MerkurV6Truck@Apr 8 2004, 02:38 PM
she has a brand new V6 stang right now w/ racing stripes and euro tails, yeyah :thumbup:
Euro's!!!!! shove a stick up her ass for having those :angry:

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by Bowens99GT@Apr 8 2004, 05:06 PM
Euro's!!!!! shove a stick up her ass for having those :angry:
they arent traditional euros, i dunno how to describe them but they look good, i'm not too fond of the yellow/whit paint/stripes/ convert top

[NismoR34VspecII]

Dude i so be all over an Z06, then an Cobra, but dats my opinion........ :D