Mustang Hot Street buildup

[heavyhitter]

In an effort to get back on the dragstrip in 2006, I have purchased an '87 Mustang coupe that was raced previously so the foundation was decent for a our build up project into a Hot Street car. The rules for Hot Street call for basically a stock frame-railed style car with power-adders - any engine/trans. The rear tires can be no larger than 29x10.5. They don't require the car be street legal but we're gonna make sure she is... gotta cruise it when weather permits, right? She's gonna be a nitrous car with a 'glide tranny.

We're in the process of putting a new rearend and ladder bar-type rear suspension and mini-tubs as well as getting the engine compartment cleaned up.

It's being constructed in Hot Springs and as I get pics, I'll post the progress on here for all to see. Hope you guys enjoy it. Here we go:

[heavyhitter]

and another..

[heavyhitter]

Got the rearend assembled too...

[5point_Slow]

are you going to go with a BB or a stroked SB? Also what h/c/i are you going to be running? Carbed or EFI? That rear-end is well........wow. What's the gearing in it? How big of a shot and lastly what do you expect e.t. wise?

[heavyhitter]

She's gonna be 440+ inches... heh heh. Carbed, dual direct port nitrous (2 nozzles per runner), 3.70 gear. Record at Centerville is 5.14 thru the 1/8... we'd like a 4 if we can hook it.

[5point_Slow]

please tell me you can bolt a second seat in!!!!

[heavyhitter]

Of course...

[Vegas]

Im going to race/drive it this year. Ha ha

[Don Juan]

Originally posted by Vegas@Dec 15 2005, 03:29 PM
Im going to race/drive it this year.
what? this mustang, if so, kick ass!


edit: that read end is fuckin hot ass hell too!

[5point_Slow]

i want the first ride!!!

[Don Juan]

i want second!

[drewgray]

So you are going back to the n2o days. :) I wish you would stay turbo :(

Where in Hot Springs is it being constructed? I am down here for a couple weeks. There are some pretty bad stangs around here.

[heavyhitter]

I'm actually looking forward to another nitrous ride. Auston Pasquith is building this car - just discovered the cage in the car wouldn't pass new chassis rules so he's cutting the existing cage out and putting in a chrome-moly setup. Had hoped to have the car ready around Feb 1 but this is gonna push us back a bit more.

FYI. My turbo engine is for sale. It's a brand new shortblock and we reused the heads/intake/injectors. The basics: RDI 9.5 deck aluminum block, 3.75" billet crankshaft, 401" displacement, aluminum rod, fabricated pan for external oil setup, Yates C3 heads with titanium intake and stainless exhaust valves, 160lb injectors, and more... nothing but the best. Asking $20k. Will make over 2200hp with 101mm turbo (not included).

[Don Juan]

whatever you do, dont like your stang go down like this one did :no:


http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?f...0A784&t=top&p=1 (http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=41DC920E-59E3-49A5-920C-411A2DE0A784&t=top&p=1)

[heavyhitter]

Hmmm... could this be the engine???

[drewgray]

That is damn sexy.

[2000CiViC]

holy shit that is crazy awsome :lust: how much hp and torque does that bad ass churn out???

[heavyhitter]

This engine pictured made 840hp and just over 630 ft lbs on the engine dyno - no nitrous.

[Tibby]

Wow...It's nice.

[Doughdog]

That stuff looks NICE. I really like that NX kit with those badass fuel/nitrous rails. I was looking at some of them on Alan's camaro a wile back and they are nice. Looks like some really nice stuff.

Dough

[heavyhitter]

Here's a few more pics...

[heavyhitter]

Gotta cut these cars up if ya wanna build 'em right...

[heavyhitter]

do I dare post an engine pic and suffer the onslaught of what follows?

[fooman03]

Originally posted by heavyhitter@Feb 6 2006, 08:58 AM
do I dare post an engine pic and suffer the onslaught of what follows?
doooo itttt

[heavyhitter]

..talked me into it!

[fooman03]

Damn, whens it gonna be done?

[heavyhitter]

Soon hopefully... month or so if all our parts show up as promised.

[fooman03]

Originally posted by heavyhitter@Feb 6 2006, 08:26 PM
Soon hopefully... month or so if all our parts show up as promised.
Sweet, what kind of power and times are you expecting?

[Tibby]

PURPLE, SILVER, BLUE, PINK!!!! YAY!!!! :yahoo:

Haha, jk...can't wait to see what kind of times you will be running!

[drewgray]

Gah.........I want that engine.... :)

Dare I ask how big the jets are in each nozzle?
Magnafuel anything = awesome.
Also, I am sure I have asked but how big is the SBF this time?

[Ricky_Rockstah]

oh hells yeah. Good luck on parts gettin there on time!


I want to come by your shop and see that in there soon damnit!

[5.0_RAY]

Looks great! Are you leaving the fuel reg in that position? I had mine close to that originally, but it looked like it was going to be too close to the dist, so I moved it to the back of the intake.

[heavyhitter]

Can't put the regulator in the back.... the distributor is back there.... lol....

[5.0_RAY]

Yeah, I didn't notice the change in motors till after I posted that. Guess that's why I had to put the reg in the back and you'll have it in the front. :yes:

[5point_Slow]

am i just dumb or is that a chevy motor?

[Tibby]

Both, Cup..

hah, i can't tell....it's a V8 The name says the power and that's all we need to know . ^_^

[5point_Slow]

eh im just guessing cause of the dizzy

['Cuda66]

Originally posted by heavyhitter@Feb 6 2006, 07:58 AM
do I dare post an engine pic and suffer the onslaught of what follows?
And this got my attention too.

[5point_Slow]

death to you Mel! lol j/k i still want a ride though i might give you shit. You do know having the dizzy in the back is going to lose 50 hp :P

[heavyhitter]

I know, I know... gotta have the big guns to run with the turbo boys. 3 stages of nitrous compliment this mega-inch aluminum monster - not to mention it already makes more power without nitrous than most small blocks WITH nitrous.

[5point_Slow]

your car is sick, simply sick!

[Tibby]

Agreed....

[heavyhitter]

stay tuned... things only get better.... 2006 will be interesting...

[Ricky_Rockstah]

Why is it that the only Ford's I like are always powered by a bowtie?



can't wait for '06 to get exciting.

[5point_Slow]

only mazda's i like are bowtie powered :dunno:

[heavyhitter]

Some pics from the weekend... I know it doesn't show much but the competition reads this board too and don't wanna give away any really cool ideas!

[heavyhitter]

and 1 more..

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by Ricky_Rockstah@Feb 10 2006, 02:47 PM
Why is it that the only Ford's I like are always powered by a bowtie?

:upyours:

[drewgray]

Nice k-member. Is he hand fabricating all of this or was that k-member one of the many bolt-in ones? He appears to do very good work with metal. :)

[heavyhitter]

The K-member was fabricated specifically to our specs although Auston didn't do that piece. He is doing everything else and is incredibly talented with metal. He was the #1 cylinder head and intake guy at Kuntz & Company for 10 years so his specialty is heads and intakes but I've learned there's not much he can't do on a race car.

Here's a pic of a recent rearend & ladder bar setup he built...

[heavyhitter]

More pics....

[heavyhitter]

The intake

[5point_Slow]

Any updates mel?

[heavyhitter]

New pics coming 8/4/06!!

[heavyhitter]

Coming along...

[drewgray]

Is that passenger seat SFI approved?

:P

[Triepsyn]

Is that passenger seat SFI approved?

:P

:lmao:

..Coming along nicely, Mel.

[heavyhitter]

SFI.. ha ha ha!! I just noticed what you were referring to!! Probably not! Actually, there will be a passenger seat that matches the drivers chair and yes, it will have a belt system for brave souls! The nitrous bottles will be riding behind the passenger seat...

:D

[heavyhitter]

Almost done at the paint shop!

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe122306e2.jpg

[Shado]

SWEEEET!!! would love to hear this thing at least idle. nothing beats the sound of a loping V8 at idle.

[Maliwho97]

Damn straight man! Looking good! If you have any nitrous parts left let me know, I need to build a kit for my bike. Ha! From the looks of your intake manifold, you might not have any. Haha

[heavyhitter]

Final assembly begins today... it was picked up from the paint shop yesterday. They took two 5-gallon buckets of bondo and crap out of the body from previous damage. It's all metal now and straightened up and looks awesome - almost a shame it's gonna be a race car... more pics soon!

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe032307r.jpg

This is a shot looking up through the front fenderwell. The front clip, although OEM steel, is removable as 1 piece. Once it's off, the radiator support unbolts and slides off to make engine removal a snap.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe032307f.jpg

Here is the factory firewall with all access holes filled per NHRA rules. The only hole is for the steering sector assembly. If it looks like the tunnel flares on the sides at the bottom, it does. It has been 'cupped' to allow room for the 5" exhaust pipes to fit without dragging the ground.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe032307m.jpg

The rear wheel tubs are fabbed but not installed yet. They will be installed and painted after wiring, brake lines, fuel lines, etc. are installed. OEM rear frame rails and floorboard remain stock per the rules.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe032307g.jpg

[Don Juan]

looks freakin awesome man, post more pics when your drop the engine in :drool:

[lmd]

Nice pro street / outlaw 10.5 car.

[LeXtasy]

damn, that looks good.

[heavyhitter]

Nice pro street / outlaw 10.5 car.

It's actually a "hot street" car. It will run the stock suspension class at tracks like Centerville & Prescott. Both Pro Street (unlimited rear tire size) and Outlaw 10.5 (10.5W tires) cars are true back-half cars as pictured below - these were both fun cars too!!

The 91 coupe Outlaw 10.5 car:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/91cpe0503a.jpg

The 63 Corvette Pro Street car:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/LLaramore63c.jpg

[SmokeyTheBear]

the notchback looks soo hot with those meats ha ha. def. some beautiful work.

[heavyhitter]

Another update... all the suspension is in, the tranny is in, the engine goes in this week, then headers, wiring and some misc parts... we're gettin there!!

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe051907e.jpg



http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe051907h.jpg



http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe051907g.jpg

[Don]

Damn that's pretty!

[Mitsubitchy]

Wow! very nice work. I'm taking notes for my project.

[mrcox]

PG :rofl: That is weak. You should have put the lenco and bruno setup in this car.

[NWADSM]

damn that looks badass.....ganna be a beast :wootburnout:

[heavyhitter]

Wanna see a big hole?

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe051907o.jpg


How many aluminum cans do you think went into making this?

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe051907p.jpg

[heavyhitter]

HEADERS AT LAST!! The engine is in the car and the headers are done except for the coating. You'd better sit down for the next part.... to let this 600+ inch monster breathe inside a Fox chassis, these bad boys had to be custom built.. Primaries are 2 3/8" step to 2.5" into 5" collectors and custom mufflers (class rules say she's gotta have mufflers). Even the pics don't do these justice... they're friggin sewer pipes!

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe060107f.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe060107i.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe060107k.jpg

[Ricky_Rockstah]

when you get it home i wanna come see it. :)

[Don Juan]

wow

['Cuda66]

Yea, sewer pipes!:thumbup:

[5point_Slow]

what kind of power/times are you looking at all motor

[heavyhitter]

The motor will dyno out a few ponies over 1200 and around 925 on torque before nitrous... with the right convertor (keep in mind there's quite a difference between an all-motor convertor and a nitrous converter), it should go 520's thru the 1/8 at around 135-ish mph.. we've equipped this engine with 3 "small" stages of nitrous cabability although realistically we'll only use 1 or 2 stages until we get her all dialed in.

[ssmith22001]

now we all know why he claims to be broke all the time $$$$$$$$$

[LeXtasy]

that is bad ass!!!!! i want one......

[4banged]

ooo...what heads are you running?

This is the second BRODIX Big Block i've seen on forums today :)

[heavyhitter]

We're using a set of Brodix PB series "The Big Duke" heads.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe053107c.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe060207f.jpg

[4banged]

sweet :D

[SmokeyTheBear]

sweet :D

brodix makes some bad ass shit. i got to go check out their factory in 05, really cool seeing how everything is done.

[5point_Slow]

when you start taking it to the track i wanna line up with you mel! you should only be a few seconds ahead lol

[4banged]

brodix makes some bad ass shit. i got to go check out their factory in 05, really cool seeing how everything is done.

Factory? Do you mena you've been out to the foundry or out to the machine shop? I got to check out the foundry a couple months ago....that was soo bad azz. I work in the office area of the machine shop.....and i still haven't gottena tour of the machine shop :lol:

[SmokeyTheBear]

i was at the machine shop, not the foundry. my shop class took a tour there when i was a senior in high school.

[heavyhitter]

Well we're obviously waaaayyyy behind on our schedule but we finally got our pushrods we've been waiting on for 2 months!! We're hoping to have this car done and on display at Bikes, Blues and BBQ in 2 weeks in Fayetteville but it's gonna be close... The Centerville state championship race is October 20 and between now and then, we've got lots of work and testing to do but we're hoping to be there with a good showing. Here's a few pics from yesterday:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe092007g.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe092007j.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe092007d.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe092007i.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe092007c.jpg

[Mitsubitchy]

schweet. I wanna buy this car when you move on.

[heavyhitter]

well as sure as the season ends, we grow ever closer to a completed car - it's not as easy as it appeared early on in this project and with just one guy doing everything - chassis, engine, fabricating, wiring, etc - it's a looonnnggg process. Here's a few pics from yesterdays visit:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe111807f.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe111807b.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe111807d.jpg

[srs14]

is that a vacuum pump connected to the valve cover? i heard that negative pressure in the crank case helps the rings seal up better. is that what you have it on there for?

[heavyhitter]

Yes, you pull a negative pressure in the crankcase and you'll free up some horsepower too.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Yes, you pull a negative pressure in the crankcase and you'll free up some horsepower too.


thats pretty cool, learn something new everyday.

[heavyhitter]

Think of it this way, you feel the compression of the pistons in the cylinders when you turn your motor over by hand. Well when the pistons are on the 'down' stroke, there's pressure build-up in the crankcase as well. Pull a vacuum on it and it makes it easier for the pistons to go down - same as pulling the spark plugs out makes it easier for the pistons to go up.

[heavyhitter]

Tis a sad, sad day... after many heated conversations, it was resolved that we should pick up the mustang even though it was not finished. That being said, it's home now and David and I are going to try to get her finished up over the summer. The good news is that she will fire up and drive - trust me, the sound of over 1100hp through twin 5-inch pipes is in-fucking-credible - but she's not near ready for a trip down the track. Gotta finish up the interior, some wiring, finish plumbing the nitrous, get the glass installed, etc, etc, etc... anyway, here's today's pics....

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe053008a.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe053008d.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe053008e.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe053008f.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe053008c.jpg

[srs14]

lol when are gonna see this thing out at sonic :P

[heavyhitter]

Final teardown begins... the interior panels were removed for cleanup, re-coloring and final fitment, the brakes were bled for the last time, all lines were checked for fitment and leaks, glass was stripped and cleaned and preppep for re-installation... you get the picture..

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe061608e.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe061608a.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe061608c.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe060608c.jpg

[DanGTP]

That car is The Sex!

[mrcox]

As soon as I get back in town, I want to come over and take a look at this car. And if you need anyone to help you with it, let me know. I'm down anytime.

[srs14]

what are those boxs on the passenger side? motec? some kind of engine management?

[heavyhitter]

Similar to motec, we use the F.A.S.T. engine management system which also monitors other sensors throughout the car - driveshaft speed, fuel pressure, nitrous pressure, air inlet temp, etc - that's the box in the center. In front of it is the MSD coil and on the passenger side of the tunnel is the MSD digital ignition control box which works a little magic of it's own. Above all that is the relays and Ford starter solenoids used to contol the nitrous system. Everything is powered by dual 16-volt batteries in the trunk.

[heavyhitter]

She's all together finally! We pulled all the nitrous equipment off of her 'cause until she's dialed in on the motor, no sense hosing it down and not risk getting the chassis set correctly. If ya wanna see her up close and personal, we'll have her at the United Bank show (she won't be an entry, just eye candy) this coming Saturday.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe071608a.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe071608l.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe071608i.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe071608h.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpe071608m.jpg

[Bad Asp]

NASTY!!!!

Nice cage work

[NWADSM]

car looks sick...congrats on the great build

[zerocool5468]

omg.....

[Don Juan]

holy wadd breaker batman!! which UB bank? the one in rogers on Walnut & 34th? if so thats right next to my work

[302Stang]

Might have to come out and see that. :]

[heavyhitter]

The United Bank in Springdale near the old Sam's Club. This coming Saturday around 10am-ish I think.

[notquiteahoe]

Awesome! Post stuff about that Toyota with the rockwells...

[Ricky_Rockstah]

glad you finally got her together mel!

[heavyhitter]

Track Day 2. Well we decided to try to test on the same weekend as the big bracket car race at Centerville soooo we only got 2 runs. Got a new tune in the FAST for today... 1st run blew the tires clean off her at the green - literally looked like John Force - had to lift and the car shifted into high gear 1.09 seconds into the pass so the run was all high gear.. the car was making good power as evidence by the mph...

Run 1:
60' 1.943
330' 4.746
1/8 et 6.834
1/8 mph 121.420

2nd run we loosened up the front end and got the tires a bit warmer on the burnout hoping to hook it. It hooked all right... major wheelstand with a drift to the left which forced me to pedal it (lift if you will), tripped the 60' foot clocks on the back tires. For some reason the shifter didn't engage high gear and so the car streched 1st gear longer than it should have. Engine saw just under 8100 rpm - sounded good but that's a little higher than we wanted it. We figure if we could have drove thru the wheelstand, she'd have been more in the 5.70-range et wise and probably 4-5mph faster...

Run 2:
60' 1.319
330' 3.997
1/8 et 6.062
1/8 mph 121.890

Got the rest of our nitrous parts sooooooo we're headed back next Saturday. For the remainder of the season, Centerville will open at noon and run till dark every Saturday in November. We're so there!!

[n2beaver]

Kudos ! Mph looks good so you know it's making some power.
It's going to be a whole different animal on the spray as you know.

[heavyhitter]

Pit pics... my baby in her element!

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpeTrack110108a2.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpeTrack110108b2.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n224/MelC105/87cpeTrack110108d2.jpg

...and yes, that IS a valid Arkansas license plate! She's tagged, insured AND all street legal. Time to cruise the sonic, eh? lol!

[Shado]

cant wait to hear it

['Cuda66]

cant wait to hear it

. . . At Sonic.

[Shado]

:2thumbsup:

[heavyhitter]

Track Day 3.

Whew it was chilly this morning. So this is our 3rd day out and we felt pretty good despite not getting our internal data logger working properly. (We'll get that hammered out this next week). Not a big crowd at the track - that's good and bad. Good cause you get more runs and nobody had to wait more than 2-3 minutes in the lanes. Bad 'cause the track surface didn't get enough rubber on it although Wayne and Patty had 'sealed' the surface and the sealant seemed to do pretty well actually. Ok, onto the numbers:

Run 1:
60' 1.274
330' 3.645
1/8 et 5.609
1/8 mph 127.15

Run 2:
60' 1.277
330' 3.579
1/8 et 5.511
1/8 mph 128.64

Run 3:
60' 1.273
330' 3.575
1/8 et 5.506
1/8 mph 128.76

Run 4:
60' 1.282
330' 3.681
1/8 et 5.646
1/8 mph 127.26

The car kept wanted to lauch left a bit so we tweaked the sway bar on the last run and she made another move so had to lift costing us the ET. Overall, an excellent day at the track! 3rd time out and she's already running ET's that would have qualified her middle of the Hot Street pack at the annual shootout a few weeks ago - and we're only runnin on the MOTOR, no nitrous yet.

The nitrous system is all installed and ready so as soon as we get our data logger on the FAST box working, it's gonna be ON. For the remainder of the season, Centerville will open at noon and run till dark every Saturday in November. We're so there!!

[heavyhitter]

Track Day 4.

Damn cold start today! Our 4th day out and things went well. It was 34 degrees when we arrived at the track at 10am - had to do a little electrical adjustment before the runs began. So how did we do? The numbers:

Run 1:
60' 1.312
330' 3.756
1/8 et 6.088
1/8 mph 93.23

Obviously not a good run but a drifting wheelstand forced me to lift and after pedaling it a bit, aborted the run.

Run 2:
60' 1.282
330' 3.699
1/8 et 5.642
1/8 mph 127.95

Better but it still drifted a bit on the launch. Lifted lightly to settle her but she got bit out of shape so the 660 foot run ended up being about 700 feet by the time we got to the stripe.

Run 3:
60' 1.231
330' 3.547
1/8 et 5.477
1/8 mph 128.46

Made some adjustments to the passenger ladder bar and WOW, it paid off nicely!! A 1.23 60-foot on the motor was SWEET! She still tracked a bit the first 300 feet but the better short-time was definately reflected in the 1/8th ET.

Run 4:
60' 1.262
330' 3.590
1/8 et 5.546
1/8 mph 127.55

A cloud cover took it's toll on the track surface (which wasn't great to begin with due to the chilly weather) and despite a burnout across the line, the surface just didn't cooperate - not a bad run for conditions tho!

Hopefully next weekend will be warmer and we'll finally get to try a little nitrous! Next weekend is the last weekend of racing at Centerville.

[NWADSM]

not bad Mel..even with the cold track looks like you guys got some good data ...are you pretty used to the car now?...id be too scared to try the bottle on a cold track

[heavyhitter]

It's beginning to feel comfortable again. You're right... nitrous on a cold track usually is not a pretty picture. :)