Trying to get a track built, need some interest

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Me and a couple people are looking into building a 1/4 mile track somewhere in NWA, most likely by the Fayetteville airport. I'm just trying to get all of the interest I can from a lot of street racers, maybe get a petition going around to get this thing started. Just for the sake of saying it, there is a posiblity that it may never happen; it all depends on how much interest we can get pretty much. So everyone let me know what you think about this, and I'll be sure to relay it. :thumbup:

[Mr. Merk]

i am behind you fully

[3rdgenRX7]

who is going to pay for it?

[I8ayellowcrayon]

No offense to you guys, and don't think I'm talking out of my ass, but I have a friend... He is a very well respected guy, and if we could get him to say yes, then he could take care of everything else. Money, local sanctions, all that. I just don't want to say his name for his privacy.

[chino]

Hey i'm game, Bring the petition to Pawn USA and i will get sigs here at the shop go door to door whatever it takes!

[Maliwho97]

I'd be w/ you man.....

[chino]

I'm seroius here! I've been kicking around the idea w/ no support but if you know someone lets do the damn thing!

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Anything that would help, and thanks for the offer Sleeper. I might hit you up on that. I'm starting this thread to show to the guy, so obviously I'm not going to get everyone's signature from all of NWA, but I'm trying to get a start.

[chino]

i'll start talking to the domestic hotroders also. they might not be on this forum but i know they will help and do what they can.

[chino]

Also if we can get 20 cars to drive 2 hours to mokan.. Just imagine what kind of turnout a full 1/4 mile track would get here.A track down here would probably put mokan out of buisness

[3rdgenRX7]

I would love to have a track here. It would help out with the illegal street racing also.

I am a lil skeptical of who would pay for it. It would take a lot of money to make a good track plus all of the legal stuff.

[TwinTurbo'D]

I'm A big Fan of that idea, Bring me a pen

[I8ayellowcrayon]

I'm A big Fan of that idea, Bring me a pen

:thumbup:

I would love to have a track here. It would help out with the illegal street racing also.

That is a big part of the legal issues. Getting these (portrayed by everyday people) thuggish punk kids off the streets to make the roads a safer place. The biggest part is having most/all NWA showing interest, and having people that would actually go. We had the idea to be open on weekends, and weekend nights (Friday, Saturday) so all of the street racers had somewhere to go to do it legally. There would most likely be a charge. Not making any promises, but $5-10 to race all night in open classes if there were people that would show up and promote the place also. That is THE BIGGEST part of the whole idea, is getting people to come there. And probably during the nights, vehicles that have mufflers only.

[5point_Slow]

i heard bentonville was planning on building a track somewhere. Thats just what i heard tho

[I8ayellowcrayon]

That would be cool too.

[redtopessex]

that would be nice to have a drag strip here in NWA. they should have a few garages in the property for dyno tuning as well. im sure that would be a big plus.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

A dyno would be really cool too, but thats kind of pushing it. But yes, that would be very nice.

[5point_Slow]

start with the track then work the way up to the road race track, dyno, mini playboy mansion and some hawaiian tropic girls :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

[mineralgreygt]

I'll donate towards a track around here anyday. So as long as i know its really gonna go down :unsure:
Not to doubt anyone in the least. But If you start it, im behind you. That would probably end up saving me money on tickets anyway.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

I personally would rather not have anyone donate just for that reason. Because if it didn't go through, then I would either feel like I scammed everyone (and in some way would have), or I would have a hell of a time paying everyone what I would owe back to them.

We just need your support and your business if we get it going.

[Mr. Merk]

i demand a sticky!!

who wants a track? just show your interest!

:shiftingfun:

[Triepsyn]

Originally posted by MerkurV6Truck@Jan 27 2004, 02:58 AM
i demand a sticky!!

who wants a track? just show your interest!

:shiftingfun:
Done. :thumbup:

I'm behind this, 100%.. As is the rest of the owners/ops of NWAImports.com. We've got your back. :thumbup:

I think it'd be a good idea to maybe make up an actual list and get people to sign.. You can get a street team out there on the weekends to get people to sign their Name and where they are from. That way, you've got a hard copy of what the people around here really want.

NWAImports.com members have the best drive to do things, and usually come out on top. I'm very proud of the group we've got here. ^_^

I'm lovin' this thread. :shiftingfun:

[2quick4u]

Somone had a petition at Orielly i beleive a while back and it was filled with signatures front and back but nothing ever came of it. Im sure most part stores would allow another one. It would just mean more buisness for them in the future.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Done.

I'm behind this, 100%.. As is the rest of the owners/ops of NWAImports.com. We've got your back.
Thanks. I really appreciate it. :thumbup: And thanks for the sticky.

I think it'd be a good idea to maybe make up an actual list and get people to sign.. You can get a street team out there on the weekends to get people to sign their Name and where they are from. That way, you've got a hard copy of what the people around here really want.
Yes definitely. We're trying to get the idea that everyone would want this to happen. Then we'll go more into the details of who and get a petition going around.

Im sure most part stores would allow another one. It would just mean more buisness for them in the future.
For the most part, this is completely independent. If the parts stores were willing to have another petition to add on to ours (after we 'okay' it), then that would be cool. It is independent, but we all want to be sure that there is going to be some business once/if it is built, hense this and the probably soon to be petition. So maybe this coming weekend (1/30 1/31) I'll bring a petition to Lokomotion or something, and maybe drop one off with Sleeper. So let everyone else know about it. If you want my cell phone number for any of this, PM me

This could also bring in some more businesses, some small speed shops and suppliers. We could have shows there, tons of stuff.

[Triepsyn]

You can mail one over here and we can get a few sig's. :thumbup:

You're going to need my addy, so mssg me for it whenever you're ready. :)

[Mr. Merk]

i'll take one to o'reilys and show-n-go in s'dale when i go to order my goods, there are lots of people at SHS as well

[5point_Slow]

Give me one and ill take it to AAA in rogers i know a lot of people that are into cars that go in and out of there all the time.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Alright, easy :P. I'm mailing one to Triepsyn, and I'll email a file to the rest of you guys - Sleeper, Cobra50, and Merkur. I'll probably send one to Richard too (Spiderman). So I guess this is the plan, just get as many authentic signatures as you can of people that will actually show up and support a track by going there and racing or watching. We do want lots of people, but only if they will represent and actually come to the place. And just bring those petition forms to Lokomotion on Saturday night, maybe on Friday night too just to get some more people to know about it. All of the guys that I mentioned earlier, email me at I8ayellowcrayon@yahoo.com and let me know where you want to take these too. Hopefully we can make this work! :thumbup:

[BlitzSuperstarT]

i can honestly get about 30+ signatures quick, if you know where to talk, i can get support. lets roll with the idea.


I'M IN!

[Dr.Nick]

Great idea...it should have been done sooner. I'd love to have a real 1/4 mile track without having to leave the state. I know I would make use of it and know alot of people who would do the same. Besides, that is racing for real, and you have a time slip to prove it...

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Thanks for all of the support guys. This is basically the first step, but its a big one. Be sure to let others know what we're trying to do, we'll need all of the help we can get! :thumbup:

[Bowens99GT]

I'm in.....give me a copy of the form and I'm sure I can get plenty of signatures from BHS and around Bentonville. How many people are we looking for signatures? I'm thinking I can get a good 20-30 at BHS and more at my job and around town at like audio stores and what not.

:nwai:

[95TSiEVO6GSR]

why isnt there a pen in my hand yet??!!?!??!?

[I8ayellowcrayon]

why isnt there a pen in my hand yet??!!?!??!?

Because I made the first post today at 5pm. 3 pages in almost 7 hours ^_^.

Guys, just remember that we need signatures of people that will race and support the track. There won't be a point to it if we just get a bunch of names and they never showed up. Just reiterating that. I think I spelled that wrong. But tomorrow I'll hit you guys up if you can really get some signatures of people that would race or come down and watch. :thumbup:

[95TSiEVO6GSR]

3 pages in 7 hours is pretty impressive...i guess we see how much this would mean to us all....I know about 40 people that the track would be thier second home.

[Mr. Merk]

caleb, caleb and craig, i'll get it to you wed morning to sign! catch me after 2nd hour,benson, in the hall, i'll give u a copy

[chino]

ready here just need the form to get sigs and support

[Triepsyn]

<center>If a track opens up in NWA, we know you'll all be there.

Let's get this support out there NWAi style! :nwai: </center>

[2quick4u]

I bet i could get Mel Collier (CDS Racing) to help us out. He gets alot of the college traffic being right there on Dickson, but i know he would want to know the circumstances behind it before he does it as not to "waste anyone's time". He's one of the nicest people i have ever met but when it comes to his pharmacy hes very professional, so i know he would need some type of proof before interrupting people there. He probably has a lot of ideas to help us in other areas to once he finds out its for real. He races himself, i think i recall where he drove all the way to Florida to race once and he knows alot of the local racers since he fills their bottles and supplies them with gas.

[chino]

ok i got 4 sigs and i just got done printing it on paper .. also got some guys that go to the rogers hs to get sum mo.........

[95TSiEVO6GSR]

Im still a lil confused about all the legal crap that you/we are gonna have to go through...I mean sure we are gonna have a lot of John Hancock's but is that gonna be enough???

[I8ayellowcrayon]

We're not getting the signatures for legal issues, but more of who would show up or how many people. We'll worry about the legal issues later. Not to be putting that off, but we're trying to do this one step at a time. We're wanting this to be by the Fay airport, which is also where Thunder Valley speedway is (dirt circle track). They got into some trouble because the cars didn't have mufflers. They came through it, and they still aren't using mufflers. We would most likely require mufflers at night.

[Mr. Merk]

i think all this is, is to show the man behind it all that he will have a reason to do this and lots of support, so lets show him :nwai:

[Bowens99GT]

what about sponsors and like NHRA and things like that?

[I8ayellowcrayon]

The money situation is most likely not going to be a problem. Its just NWA showing interest. We need a ton of signatures! Click here for a copy of a petition (http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMjU0MTQ3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D). Scratch what I said earlier; get signatures from anyone that would want a 1/4 mile track in NWA! But again, make sure they are authentic. Also include age of the person and their ZIP code if at all possible. If you already have some signatures then don't worry about the age/ZIP.

We're going to be doing a lot of researching in the next couple weeks, so we need you guys to get as many signatures as you can! :nwai:

[Mr. Merk]

i got over 40 today, i think craig got more

[Bowens99GT]

I think we already got like 20 from bhs and probably if I can figure out how to print this thing a lot more. :thumbup:

[John02Hawk]

do you think we can actually get a full 1/4 mile track? that would be totally awesome. . . i wonder how long it takes to build one?

:huh:

[Triepsyn]

Just got the letter about 5 mins ago. We've got 5 so far. :lol:

[jasonslyric00]

I couldn't be behind you more if I tried.
I'll give whatever funds you need, but through work, I could get a ton of signatures, too.


EDIT: fixed the double post

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Originally posted by Triepsyn@Jan 28 2004, 06:14 PM
Just got the letter about 5 mins ago. We've got 5 so far. :lol:
hehe. Gotta start somewhere :). I've been seeing lots of good results! Lets keep them coming!! :nwai:

do you think we can actually get a full 1/4 mile track? that would be totally awesome. . . i wonder how long it takes to build one?

If we do build a track, it will be a full 1/4 mile. It will take long enough to get the land and let the pavement dry. We'll stand out there with stopwatches for a while if we have to.

Click here to download a copy of the petition (http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMjU0MTQ3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D). Anyone can download it, and I would hope that everyone would, so please help us out. We do need the age and location (ZIP code will do) of every signature from here on out. And if you can, go back and fill out ages and locations if at all possible.

Craig was talking about taking a couple pages to Sam's Compact Car accessories and Show 'N Go. That is perfectly fine, but make sure you tell me before taking a sheet to a dealer. And also be sure to let them know lots about it so they can answer people's questions about it. Thanks a ton!!

[Bowens99GT]

Thanks for stealing our bandwidth is all I see? I Need one badly! :..:

[Maliwho97]

PawnUSA & Audio has quite a few also!!! Plus, I got a phone number to Pat Moran, he's the politician who lobby's at the capital in little rock.... I was told to have the founder talk to him to get it through the gubment. Haha

[I8ayellowcrayon]

LINK IS BEING GAY!! Does anyone have an open account to ImageStation or some other free server that I could upload this picture to? Caleb, BDP, someone help me out please!!

Copy that link and paste it into your browser. If that doesn't then I guess you could just make your own, just make sure that you put on it at the top that it is for a 1/4 mile track somewhere in NWA. If you do make your own, put an age and ZIP code slot on there too just so people will remember to do that. :thumbup:

[BDP]

There is a .htaccess rule defined on that server for images, it will not let servers outside of it and its defined 'allowed' servers to link it. We would be more than happy to help host it :thumbup:

[94sentra_se]

Dude this track is an amazing idea i know some kids at bhs that have started a petition and lots of people are signing. I know so many people that would come to the track. :thumbup: :nwai:

[chino]

just checking on how everyones doing on the sigs.........

[drewgray]

I am fully behind this. I would love to not have to travel to go to the track. Plus this would most likely put Centerville on the edge because why would you go to a 1000' track when ya gots a 1/4 not too far away

[juggalo]

bout damn time we tuners open our mouths for something that should have been here to begin with....im all for it...imma stop by pawn usa sometime this week to sign my name on the line. hooray for :nwai:

[Verge]

do you live in fayetteville...

might wanna clear this up with dan fucking coody first... he's the biggest dickface in the world... or wait till somebody else get's elected..

i'll sign it, but i don't think you are really appropriating the costs correctly.. you can't just take a runway and paint a stripe down the middle, and have a 1/4 mile track... ur gonna have to do alot of work on the track surface, electronics, safety, certifications, pay people to work there... and still make money on it. I'm sure you'll get alot of people from fortsmith and fayetteville, but that's about the only people ur gonna get, keep in mind they are building a multi-million dollar racing facility in tulsa right now

[BDP]

Great point Verge, many people have made attempts to open a track but have failed. There is many factors in getting one started that most people dont think about. However, I think for the most part, these people did not influence the 'right' people. It WILL happen sooner or later, because of the growth in the area, but for now I think we should all find out more info on it!

I figure a Airport is a great location because it is prolly already accepted in zoning, community, sound and polution ordinances but like verge said, there is still plenty of track things you have to do and SAFTEY is a big thing. I was talking to Centerville about how they did theirs all up and they had plenty of info on what was to be done. That is Centerville tho. This is Wal-mart! There is probably different madeup rules for us.

Even if we find the "right" persons who is to say that any community officials will accept the notion since the Tulsa track is being built?

I am not against this in anyway, I just wanna help point out areas that some tend to overlook. We've been discussing these ideas since last summer and just gave up since no one had the funds. SOMEONE PLEASE WIN THE LOTTO!!! :(

[Verge]

yea don't get me wrong, i'd be there every weekend in the summer, hanging out, talking about cars/bikes... it's just i dunno if we'll get one with tulsa building there's...


isn't the fayetteville airport still in service ?? how are you going to use it ?

[I8ayellowcrayon]

We never said we were going to use the Fay airport, but we were going to try and find some land near it. And yes, it still is in use. The whole thing with Tulsa, there already is a track in Tulsa (I at least think there is). So why would that bother us now? If you are willing to go to Tulsa to race in the 1/4, you may as well go to Mokan. The main reason why I'm doing this is to have a track no more than half an hour away. Another reason is so that late night street racers will have some place to do their thing legally, and not have to worry about having the cops after them, or wrecking, or injuring innocent people. So yes, the track would be open at nights to a certain extent.

Verge, you did bring up some good points. And we already have them in mind, and are already researching how to get by them, or how to abide by them. So, on a rather funny note, we have to do about two times more legal matter than what you would normally think. This is basically going to be a small business. The money will (hopefully) be loaned to us by either a bank or a group of investors. We had an estimate of the track pavement only to be about $40k. We know the matters that we have to deal with, and the monitary situations.

As of now, we're looking for a small amount of land (that MUST be out of any city limits to put the track on. Any help finding a good lot with not many houses around would be greatly appreciated!!! I took a drive on 412 just past Tontitown, and there is some good land out there for this, and a somewhat good location too. We're still open to all ideas! Thanks guys for the concerns, and please keep the signatures coming!! I emailed a file to Tripesyn, but BDP said his internet was down. So I may be sending you that 'petition' file tomorrow BDP to put on the server.

[BDP]

I havent heard from Triepsyn in a couple days, prolly cause my net is down, or they went out of town? But I will look and see if that file ever got sent to the Server or not. I dunno if I will even find it, there's not too much I can do with a phone connection :D

[I8ayellowcrayon]

No, I live in Prairie Grove, about 20 minutes SW of Fay.

Right now, Coody is the least of our worries. We're trying to do this one step at a time, and the step we're on is collecting interest. So basically you're interested or you're not...

track surface
Concrete up to 500 ft or so, then asphalt. We're looking into different cost methods of going concrete the entire race area, and asphalt for slowing down and returning to the 'pit' area.

electronics
Yes, it does cost money, but thats not too much to handle.

safety
There actually aren't very many safety 'rules' that would apply to us. We would have our own set of rules just like any other track. Wearing helmets if your car is faster than a certain ET, seat belts, door handles, safety equipment, track safety equipment, etc.

certifications
Business lisence, local "OKs" about sound levels, insurance.

pay people to work there
I think we can cover that pretty easily. I know a few people that would be happy to give up a few hours of their weekend to have this track, and I am definitely one of them.

fortsmith and fayetteville, but that's about the only people ur gonna get
Have you no faith in the rest of NWA?!? You'd be surprised how many people that race and don't live in Fay-Springdale or Ft. Smith.

I'm not getting down on you Verge, I actually appreciate your concern of all of this, and making it known. I answered all of these one by one so I can hopefully give everyone a little taste of what we're thinking and what we are trying to do. :thumbup:

[I8ayellowcrayon]

BDP, I emailed the attatched file to his email address, Triepsyn@nwaimports.com I think...

[Verge]

Originally posted by I8ayellowcrayon@Feb 1 2004, 11:34 PM
The whole thing with Tulsa, there already is a track in Tulsa (I at least think there is). So why would that bother us now? If you are willing to go to Tulsa to race in the 1/4, you may as well go to Mokan.
when the 1/4 strip is done in tulsa, it will likely be the nicest in the country, least from the drawings and details i've seen.. also, there's a full road course right next to it, so you can spend a whole day up there(assuming your car can handle it.. roadracing then 1/4 mile... ouch, poor car)

i'm not trying to rain on your parade, hope i don't sound that way... i want a track up here... would give alot of people, especially youths, a place to hang out, which is badly needed... since there really isn't anything to do in fayetteville except dickson street, and getting drunk gets old after a while... but i've help people set up some small businesses, even set my own up.. and i've learned you have to be extremely thourough in the planning stages, or you'll get ate up later on

keep in mind also though, you'd have to be 18 and up, or face a potential lawsuit from hell... so the highschoolers are still screwed

[Mr. Merk]

every track i've been to let minors race :huh:

[Bowens99GT]

Same here......I've watched a kid a few yrs. younger than me takin some drag car into the 12's at mokan. I was 16 at that time.

[5point_Slow]

keep in mind also though, you'd have to be 18 and up, or face a potential lawsuit from hell... so the highschoolers are still screwed
If you old enough to drive your own car there you have to sign a release form before they even let you enter the property(mokan) and if you arent old enough to drive yourself your parents are going to sign.

[Mr. Merk]

yup :thumbup:

[jasonslyric00]

QUOTE
pay people to work there


I think we can cover that pretty easily. I know a few people that would be happy to give up a few hours of their weekend to have this track, and I am definitely one of them.



Shit...I'll volunteer like a mutha!!!

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Hehe, thanks Jason, I'll keep you in mind ;).

I'm only 17, and I've been to the tracks a couple times. My first time to the track was a couple months after I first turned 17.

[Verge]

risky... i mean, if an underaged kid has a wreck and die's at a racetrack... even though he signed a waiver, his parents could sue... waivers don't really mean anything if ur under 18... these are big risks when you are thinking about a business, considering a lawsuit like that could effect you personally as well. Yes, i've seen underaged people race, i've seen some 15 year old girl in a drag car running before.... big deal, her dad was standing in the pit area... if their parents authorize it, it doesn't matter.. but if they don't have their parents approval, you are taking a pretty big chance by letting them drive.

[jasonslyric00]

Originally posted by Verge@Feb 3 2004, 07:07 AM
risky... i mean, if an underaged kid has a wreck and die's at a racetrack... even though he signed a waiver, his parents could sue... waivers don't really mean anything if ur under 18...
I hate to go back to K-garden on this, but what about a waiver that the drivers UNDER 18 can have, dare I say it, their parents sign.
I mean, most parents aren't THRILLED with their kids racing, but, by now, they know it's gonna happen...if given the choice of illegal street or supervised track, I tend to think they'll sway towards the ladder.

[95TSiEVO6GSR]

Originally posted by jasonslyric00@Feb 3 2004, 05:25 PM
I mean, most parents aren't THRILLED with their kids racing, but, by now, they know it's gonna happen...
exactly...my parents werent too thrilled a lil over a year ago when we were in cave springs and we got busted...everybody and I mean EVERYBODY had to get thier parents to go get them at 3 in the morning....Id be glad to put in any time at the track if it means street racers could race...I mean Im only 18 but still thats old enough to start races right??? after all I am the flagger almost everytime I have been racing. I also think that if somebody under age does go....they should prolly have thier parents with them to sign..not just a "note" sayin that they can race. I remember my first time to centervill I was 15, didnt have a permit or anything (it expired) and I raced a friends car...

[Khallos]

yeah...i dont even have a liscense, but i drive everyday.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Triepsyn sent me two pages filled with signatures :thumbup:. Thanks

How is everyone else coming? Oh, Craig, I called Honda-Pro, and they said they would keep a petition for people to sign. The earliest I could drop by there is on Saturday. If you have some time could you go up there and drop a few petitions off?

[95TSiEVO6GSR]

I sure can Jason...Ill do it tonight..if they arent open then I guess Ill just tape them on the door.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

cool. Thanks man!

The guy I talked to sounded like he would be thrilled to do that. Maybe we talked to different people lol.

[Triepsyn]

I never got the email with the .doc file. Resend if you could. Triepsyn@nwaimports.com

[I8ayellowcrayon]

I'll do it tomorrow at school, because its on the school server.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Triepsyn, I sent it out on Friday.

We're about to get really busy on this whole track idea. We finally have all of the things that we need to research, and we are busting our asses trying to get it done. Last nights wreck (2/21) has really motivated me to do everything I can to get this done.

If you have some sign up sheets already filled out, PM me and we'll work something out as to how we are going to meet up, or I'll give you my address and you can mail them to me. Thanks!!

[I8ayellowcrayon]

anyone??

I guess I'll have to start PMing all of the guys that I sent the file to.

[Triepsyn]

Here is the petition..

http://www.nwaimports.com/Random/Petition.doc

Sorry I didn't get around to putting it up sooner, I hardly check my email anymore. :(

[Maliwho97]

Yo man, come up to the shop, I have about 8 sheets filled out.

[BDP]

Thats what I'm talkin about :thumbup:

[Mr. Merk]

yeyah, way 2 be!!

[420octane]

Thanks, I just got one. Will fill it up and return it.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Thanks Triepsyn!!!

Brock, I can probably go up to the shop on Tuesday. Let me know if/when you're going to be there.

I PMed some of you, and have gotten word back from two. If/when you guys get a page or some pages filled out, PM me and I'll give you my cell phone number and we can either meet up, or plan on meeting.

Thanks again for the help guys! :thumbup:

[Maliwho97]

Come up to the shop anytime man!

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Cool. Thanks for the help man!

[SmokeyTheBear]

you got my name. you need to go to the Silioam Springs/Gravette area. people just build stuff there and let it sit, drive it on the weekends and maybe take it to mokan once a year. it is 3 hour drive for them. if you got the NWA community behind it saying that it will take street racers (hard to beleive this quaint little arkansas community has them, talk about crazy ha ha ha) off the streets. it would also be like a tourist attraction if you could get like major racers down here. the intial investment would be paided back within its first year.

[juggalo]

i totally agree...however just as it was stated before...mokan and tulsa have nwa at a disadvantage...plus why would the area take land and room away from the rich industrial bastards and not to mention wal-mart....it is a good dream...but short of a racer winning the lottery and just doing it....it aint gonna happen

[95TSiEVO6GSR]

well...i know what i must do.....its POWERBALL TIME!!!!!!!!!! :D

[3rdgenRX7]

Im with juggalo I really dont see this happening

I havent heard anything else about it we have signatures now what?

[Mr. Merk]

they are still in contact with the financer :thumbup:

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Our biggest concern right now is finding land, and getting more signatures. I only have about 15 pages of signatures, and a good amount would be somewhere in 35-40 pages. We were told that we need AT LEAST 1000 signatures for it to even be considered.

We need a good somewhat flat plot of land, that isn't in city limits of Fayetteville/Srpingdale/Rogers/Bentonville, and it can't be in a spot where any of those cities plan to build. So, 5-10 miles out of the city limits of those cities is where we want it. The best spot would be on 412 E or W, but nobody wants to give up any land out there. And finding a flat 3/4 of a mile isn't easy in the Ozarks...

[fooman03]

hey ill take a petition and pass it around RHS i know several people who are really for this idea.

[blamecanada!!]

HEY pdiddy we need to get this rolling again. we need to take a day and do some crazy research. And to all the supporters thanx...later

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by blamecanada!!@Apr 24 2004, 10:43 PM
HEY pdiddy we need to get this rolling again. we need to take a day and do some crazy research. And to all the supporters thanx...later
i second that!

:2thumbsup:

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Mokan won't call me back. I've been sending them emails too... Nobody ever picks up the phone at Centerville, and I don't have any info with Sallisaw's track.... But yeah... I'm off on Tuesday, lets see what we can get done.

[turboXR]

Diddy, im free tuesday until 7:30 (got to go to Kevin Marshall's baseball game). Call me. I agree, let's get it moving again. we can do it JP i know we can!!! (not to be corny or anything :P )

:otl:

[Triepsyn]

Originally posted by I8ayellowcrayon@Apr 26 2004, 09:28 AM
Mokan won't call me back. I've been sending them emails too... Nobody ever picks up the phone at Centerville, and I don't have any info with Sallisaw's track.... But yeah... I'm off on Tuesday, lets see what we can get done.

Have you called any of the other tracks this list? (http://www.nwaimports.com/tracks.html)

There are some really friendly peeps that can help out with with any questions and prep/planning if you can't get ahold of Sallisaw, Centerville or Mokan. :)

[I8ayellowcrayon]

That'a way to be on top of things!! Thanks a ton man!!

[Triepsyn]

Originally posted by I8ayellowcrayon@Apr 26 2004, 10:53 PM
That'a way to be on top of things!! Thanks a ton man!!

Anytime! :2thumbsup:

[Motorex Drifter]

so how is the track thing going.. Gorman gave me some petitions so if you guys need some more signatures i can help you guys out. I really want to see a track around here. There are alot of bad things happening cause everybody wants to race.. But if you guys need help i can help out.

[Wolfgraen]

Ya, are we any closer to having a track yet?

[Triepsyn]

I am unpinning this due to lack of word.

[OBD1 Kenobi]

thread from the dead! lol IT"S ALIVE!

[boostdog]

not to bring anyone down, but i know a bunch of guy got together a few years ago and tried to the same thing..they didn't get approval from the city of fayettville. but i agree we really need a local track. we need to approach city council from the aspect that it will bring more business to NWA. and at the same time it will get street racing off of our streets.

[3rdgenRX7]

I think they would rather hear arguments about bringing business to the area.

[John02Hawk]

BUMP !

We need to...

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[hazard]

i'm with ya on that....

[turbocoupe_87]

If i lived in Arkansas i would b behind u. i live close to mokan. i would run at the track if it was there. if u push it about being an aternative for street racing then you will get a good response. just dont get rediculous wit it. if you are serious bout it being an alternative. i will try and get u some support from the mo area. hope it works out for yuh

[xenoncivic02]

yeah we need a local track bad, good luck man

[3rdgenRX7]

I knew this would never happen. Its been what a year and no update or anything. I would love to have one but I dont think it will happen anytime soon

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Sorry to say, but I didn't really see you helping much Caleb.

I lost interested due to a lack of support I guess you could say. I really appreciate everyone who helped out, but I was told I would need at least 1500 signatures for it to even be considered. I have about 175 signatures... Nobody seemed to be taking it seriously, so I dropped it...

[3rdgenRX7]

Yea u didnt see me because we never see each other lol. I got some signatures around SHS i think, or helped to that a lil I think

[1.9lZ]

why do u need a petiton unless it would be a publicly funded track or soething. if you can find someone to privately fund it take it somewhere in the right zoneing or you can just go in front of the city council to get a zone change.

[Mr. Merk]

we need this now more than ever, you dont just get ticketed anymore, you get arrested and impounded, we need an alternative

[KJY9]

I think the insurance for a 1/4m track is going to be the biggest hurdle to overcome.....big $$$$$$$$$$.
That being said, it would be great having a nice 1/4m track here in NWA...I just don't see it happening :(

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Insurance isn't the problem. Money for getting the track built, and permission to have a track is the big deal. We had brought it up to a few investment bankers that were up for the idea. The guys said that to even bring this up to anyone else, we would need proof of interest, showing that there would be people supporting this and people actually going to the track. Without interest, there is no business, which equals no money, and their investment just went down the crapper. And since there wasn't much interest, I just kinda gave up on the idea.

Caleb, sorry for what I said, I wasn't in too good of a mood, and its just attitudes like that which causes things like this not to happen.

Yes, now is just as good of a time as any (especially due to some recent happenings to some friends :unsure:), but I don't see it happening any more than the rest of you. So to all, sorry for wasting your time, and effort to those who helped, but I can't bring this here.

[3rdgenRX7]

You dont need a petition to show interest. If you look at one of the cruises you have interest there. Im sure people on ari would come up to a track too plus people in the surrounding area.

[Mr. Merk]

there would be an uncontrollable amount of business

[SleeperTec]

WOAH.. how have I missed this thread!! Lets do it!! :yes:

[Don Juan]

I will talk to John and Andres, they are real estate investors that are behind many real estate developments like then new La Quinta hotel on Walton and J st, and most importantly, they are the ones behind Auto Obsessions. I think we are in the damand now for a track in NWA, not just for the imports, but for hot rods, domestic and even motocycles. I will look on our system to check for a good place where this can be done. I will let you guys know when i talk to John and Andres about it :thumbup:

[Ego]

I would be there every weekend, can't speak for everyone but I'm sure we'd have weekly gathering lasting the entire weekend with all of us settling scores and having fun. So Jason WHERE DID YOU MIND GO.

[Scootro]

:2thumbsup: :maliwho: :thumbup: count me in that would be the cooest thing to hav a dragstrip in our back yard no more mokan and tulsa. I can save all my gas money for the dragstrip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









its never going to happen just a dragstrip dream.......................

[75bird]

im in this crap too a track would be awesome. I might also add that it would be nice to have a .5 tree, but you cant really complain about that cuz its the pros use but getting the track itself built should be your main priority right now not the little things. :2thumbsup: :maliwho: :thumbup:

[John02Hawk]

Update?

:???:

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Yes, now is just as good of a time as any (especially due to some recent happenings to some friends unsure.gif), but I don't see it happening any more than the rest of you. So to all, sorry for wasting your time, and effort to those who helped, but I can't bring this here.

Don't look at me.

[2SPOOLED]

letme know if this happens, I know track owners in Illinois and it is not cheap there so I doubt it will be cheap here despite the cost of living being lower. looking at at least 4-5M to start this.

[Tibby]

My boss at Fun City is currently looking for land. He says all he sees is nice cars around here and he wants to make extra money by buying land and making it into a Drag strip. More Details later.

[Scootro]

the drag strip idea is not going to happen around here!!!!!!! my uncle has been trying to get approved to build one for like 10 years he always gets declined. Trust me my uncle has the money to build one but the mayor and the board of adm. would never never approve the rights to build the strip...........



the petition signing thing is a good idea but if every person in arkansas signed it
it still wouldn't help

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Let it die.

lol

[1.9lZ]

thought ide bring this back to life. To bad we can't convice someone who owns a smaller airpot to close the runway down like once a month in the evening and have a little drag strip. Nothing fancy just like a tree and someone at the end to say who the winner is, just straigt grudge matches race who you think you can beat. theres a temporary idea if nothing gets built but it would probably be hard to do.

[ManacMalibu]

That would be fun at least, who knows maybe we can bribe mayor womack!

[blackztsfocus]

count me in that would be cool to get a track here in fayetteville

[A_Yellow_Miata]

It would be even cooler if you could get a road course and a 1/4 mile track built in nwa.

[Samurai]

I would be fully behind because I have been trying to get a small business loan for a little while now to pave about 5 acres to play on. Not real easy, but I am fully behind you *respect! get these damn kids off the street with their racing :) lol Seriously, a 'take it to the track' attitude would be worth spending a million dollars on a track, to me anyways.