After The Big 3

[Don Juan]

Ok peeps I need some input.


Hopefully by the end of this month, I will have exhaust and headers installed in the lude. I already have a CAI, so my question is what should I do next??? Should I go with a good Coilover set, underdrive pulleys, brembo brake kit, or just get some tuning done to it?? PLEASE dont reply with cosmetic crap like Body kits, wings or Type R stickers :laugh: Right now I just want to buy performance parts, none of that ricey crap. So please let me know what you think. If you can think of anything else post em up :thumbup:

[EVOL 8]

vtec controller, bore out throttle body, underdrive pulley

[turboXR]

tires :thumbup:

[Triepsyn]

pulleys.

[notquiteahoe]

save up and get a real transmission.

[OBD1 Kenobi]

Originally posted by EVOL 8@Feb 7 2005, 03:59 PM
vtec controller, bore out throttle body, underdrive pulley
Don't waste your money on a VTEC controller. I dont know what kind of ECU you are running on your Prelude (some are not compatable with Hondata) but you will by far benefit from a Hondata S200 setup. The base price is $295 and you get datalogging, speed limiter removed (if you have it), tunable fuel and ignition tables, expanded rpm fuel & ignition tables, VTEC control, and adjustable rev limiter. For $125 more you can add a 3 step rev limiter- Launch control and full throttle shift. You cant go wrong with Hondata! I cant wait until I get Hondata K-Pro for my K20.

[SpecialED]

I would not put pulleys on a honda h22a engine... the side effects far out weigh the positves and I have heard to many horror stories about blowing the main crankshaft bearing. A VAFC can help and adds like 5 whp or so if tuned right. I hated mine however and would not recommend it -- Hondata is the way to go but you need more mods to get real benefits from it. I would start with I/H/E and go from there. When your car needs a new clutch invest in an act clutch and put a light flywheel on there and you will notice a big difference. Have fun modding your car -- it is your car and have fun, you can learn a lot from hondatech.com it is like the bible of honda ownership..

[SmokeyTheBear]

find out if you can do hondata on it. hondata pwns you. (im with dave on that one) if ya can't, buy a real tranny lol.

[John]

Real Tranny.

[SmokeyTheBear]

well lol the real tranny is a good idea, but the swap includes a hell of a lot more than just swap, its clutch pedal install, and a lot of other stuff i don't wanna list lol. its an awesome idea, but unrealistic on a newer car and esp. if your making payments.

[notquiteahoe]

i can't see it as being unrealistic. it's probably 10x easier with a Honda considering the wealth of parts, and engine bay room.

[notquiteahoe]

hey special edition. is that sig picture big enough for you? i'm on 1152 resolution and it's half a 17" monitor.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Tires. Go Joe!

Either tires or some good coilovers and camber kit.

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by specialedition@Feb 7 2005, 08:45 PM
When your car needs a new clutch invest in an act clutch and put a light flywheel on there and you will notice a big difference.
he will never need a new clutch :no:

[SmokeyTheBear]

lol nice 1.

[SpecialED]

true I quess autos don't need clutches or flywheels either my bad forgot it was an auto

[SmokeyTheBear]

nevermind.

[Don Juan]

haha yea, it sucks having an auto, the only thing that makes it worth it is the sports shifter. I will definately see if I can go with Hondata, Im also going to do a OBD1 conversion because I have an OBD2 :headshake:

As far as tires go, I got me some new rubber last saturday, i got some Hankooks HR2's from Joe (sleppertec) Thanks for the sweet hookup bro!


Keep more ideas coming :2thumbsup:

[5point_Slow]

cams?

[Maliwho97]

Juan, to pull power, you're going to need to build a head. Find a used H22a head and go crazy. Its an investment, but you can put money into it as you have it. The head is where you make your power. 1mm oversized valves, dual valvesprings, titanium retainers, toda/jun/crower/skunk2 stage 2 cams, Prelude Type-S pistons, etc.

Also, w/ your auto, you should get a 14,000RPM stall converter. Bahahaha

[Don Juan]

Originally posted by Maliwho97@Feb 8 2005, 09:31 AM
Juan, to pull power, you're going to need to build a head. Find a used H22a head and go crazy. Its an investment, but you can put money into it as you have it. The head is where you make your power. 1mm oversized valves, dual valvesprings, titanium retainers, toda/jun/crower/skunk2 stage 2 cams, Prelude Type-S pistons, etc.

Also, w/ your auto, you should get a 14,000RPM stall converter. Bahahaha
yea thats what im going to do, I just want to get all of my ducks in a row and do everything right and in the right order.


what can i do to make my tranny stronger or better? OTHER than switching trannys to a 5-speed :P

[juggalo]

rebuild with kevlar parts and throw in that stall converter

[Mr. Merk]

why OBD1? (i'm not familiar with the advantages/disadvantages)

[Don Juan]

Originally posted by Mr. Merk@Feb 8 2005, 04:09 PM
why OBD1? (i'm not familiar with the advantages/disadvantages)
Well from what I understand is that the OBD2 will reconfigure itself back to stock settings when you add performance parts, like when I installed the CAI, all that extra air that is coming through will be read by the ECU, and it will change the air/fuel ratio. same with anything else. the OBD1 doesnt do that. This is what i heard, if im wrong or said it different someone correct me :P

[Mr. Merk]

it will compensate for extra air, meaning more fuel right? which is what you want, it maintains AF ratio like any other would

i dont think you would benifit from swapping

[Don Juan]

Originally posted by Mr. Merk@Feb 8 2005, 04:26 PM
it will compensate for extra air, meaning more fuel right? which is what you want, it maintains AF ratio like any other would

i dont think you would benifit from swapping
hhmm you might be right, but I dont know if I described the difference between them exactly though, SOMEONE clarify this for me please :laugh:

[hazard]

i believe OBDI is just easier to work with and tune, because it's more flexible than OBDII is with emissions. i think...

[SpecialED]

OBD1 refers to emissions systems on all cars especially imports before 1996 -- in 1996 they switched to OBD2 -- You are correct in your statement that Obd2 systems will have to be reset in order for the computer to relearn the air fuel ratios and optimize itself to your mods. What happens is after several starts and restarts the computer on OBD2 cars uses two O2 sensors which test for the best air/ fuel ratio for the best fuel economy for the vehicle. So what then happens is the computer will actually lean or rich the car out just a little to compensate for the extra air flow which kinda defeats the purpose of modding your car to begin with. Most 5th gen owners have made ecu reset switchs or just disconnect the battery after each run. This can turn into a pain in the ass though. They make OBD1 conversion kits or you could just make one your self but you would have to change your ecu, evap equipment, header/ flex pipe, and map sensor. ( I do not even know if the intake manifold is the same I believe they are though) It could cost you a lot or maybe not if you like ebay and can find the parts there.

[9524tee]

OBD1 is just easier to tune , less sensors etc . either way with obd1 or obd2 , you still need some type of engine management , fuel management , and ignition to really "tune" everything . no matter what kind of ecu your running . id say if your not worried about the handling , or braking , and just wanna get some extra power , get a good greddy , hks , or motec engine management system , so in the future you can tell the ecu , injectors , timing etc what to do . and maybe even start doing fuel rail , high flow fuel filter , injectors , fuel pump etc , so you will be ready for more power mods , like turbo , nitrous etc . and as far as getting your auto to improve , seriously ... go the easy and cheap route , just get some good synthetic fluid for it and call it a day . makes a huge improvement , and its cheap .

just my thoughts ...

[Don Juan]

Originally posted by 9524tee@Feb 8 2005, 06:55 PM
OBD1 is just easier to tune , less sensors etc . either way with obd1 or obd2 , you still need some type of engine management , fuel management , and ignition to really "tune" everything . no matter what kind of ecu your running . id say if your not worried about the handling , or braking , and just wanna get some extra power , get a good greddy , hks , or motec engine management system , so in the future you can tell the ecu , injectors , timing etc what to do . and maybe even start doing fuel rail , high flow fuel filter , injectors , fuel pump etc , so you will be ready for more power mods , like turbo , nitrous etc . and as far as getting your auto to improve , seriously ... go the easy and cheap route , just get some good synthetic fluid for it and call it a day . makes a huge improvement , and its cheap .

just my thoughts ...
yea thats something that Ive been thinking about doing for the tranny, you recomend any specific type of tranny fluid?

[TripleZero]

I think you need some freakin wheels.

Some Focal F5's would look hot

[SmokeyTheBear]

just do standalone, youll have everything tunable.