boost choice

[5point_Slow]

we are talking v8's too. Many people I know say get a turbo because it does not rob you of power because it does not have to work of the engine and will make your car a lot faster. Then other say get a super charger to get some awesome bottom end and be of the line fast then the muscle of the v8 should take it from there. So what do you all think super or turbo?!?!

[2quick4u]

Im sure it just depends on the setup. I get instant boost and way too much torque on take off, 1st is just plain stupid, even 2nd is hairy. So dont assume you cant get boost immediately with a turbo. If you dont beleive me, hop in.

[SmokeyTheBear]

i would go with the supercharger on a v8 and a turbo on a 4 cyclinder. (the SRT4 guy, you rock man. i have heard nothing but GREAT things about yours.) but the reason supercharger on a v8 is it is a lot more common and i think easier to put on than a turbo. plus when you put your foot to the gas, it is instant cuz it keeps constant boost running, unlike a turbo which has to spool up. i would take either one though if someone gave me one ha ha ha.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Turbos are very efficient, very adjustable, and you can adjust the boost level more easily than a supercharger. Plus if you are wanting to boost a daily driving car, a turbo would be better. A superchager has a set amount of boost for every RPM (because it is belt driven). With a turbo, if you aren't getting on it, it won't spool up all the way, so it is easier to drive in traffic; but its definitely there when you want it.

The only problem with a V8 is you would have to use a garganutan turbo (semi turbo) or use two. A supercharger is very easy to install, just bolt it on and go basically. And a supercharger will be a lot easier than TTs. But then again, how many people have a TT Cobra Mustang? :D

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Oh, and about turbo lag, in 1/4 mile, just launch at 2500 rpms or so and you will have enough boost to get off a good start without bogging and without spinning your tires. If you have a 3spd 396, then a supercharger would be great. After learning how to drive your turbo car, you can get around the lag. Most efficient turbo setups have the turbo at full boost at 3000 rpms. Road course races hardly ever get under that. Just learn how to drive it and it'll be ok.

[Maliwho97]

Thats fo damn sho. I've seen a camaro w/ a turbo mounted at the rear differential, underneath the car, w/ 3" ran from the manifolds collector to the back. That saved having to make a manifold. Then, the chargepipe was ran all the way back up to the front. It was a nifty little setup. Hey Robert, I think Hugo w/ the yellow saleen at D&S Auto in lowell has a paxton or vortech supercharger setup for sale.....

[5point_Slow]

. But then again, how many people have a TT Cobra Mustang?
I can't say ive seen many TT mustangs or cobras my body style but i have seen a lot of fox box's that are TT so same engine. I was looking @ a procharger w/ a 3 core intercooler. I'm not too sure if i want to run boost. Was thinking more along the lines of a 351 windsor stroked out to 429 or so or maybe just 347 stroke my 5.0 :thumbup:

[mineralgreygt]

Cannot pick one or the other. It depends on your situation, your setup, and what you're wanting it to do. Although, a nice 69 GTO with a huge blower and butterfly flaps would probably weaken me in the knees. :thumbup:

[I8ayellowcrayon]

V8 n00b here, what do you use to stroke the 351W into a 429? I know you can use another crank (don't know which one) in a 302 and you get the 347 stroker.

[HogZ]

I used to own a white 95 cobra :)
I also had a 97 cobra but the last of the 5.0s was still my favorite.
Personally, I would lean toward something like a Kenne Bell whipplecharger for that motor. I am generally just not impressed with the centrifugal supercharger. The only one out there I consider to be decent is the paxton novi.

Now that I've had a turbo car, I have to say I love em. Ridden in all sorts of hotrods blown and otherwise, but nothing has the grin factor like a turbo car. The way the lag works (and yes you do have lag with every turbo its just a fact of life..you can work some tricks to get around it partially but it will never match a roots blower for response) gives you the sensation that the car actually has more power because of the way it comes on in a rush once the turbos begin to spool.
However, turbos are not for the faint of heart, there is typically a large amount of plumbing you have to deal with and it really does need to be intercooled. v-8 motors typically do not lend themselves well to single turbo setups because the exhaust manifolds become to complicated. Twin turbo setups take a lot of time to fabricate (if no one offers an out of box solution) and also cost a lot of money.. you get to buy two of everything.
Back in the day, Incon was producing an awesome setup for that 5.0... roughly 420 rwhp on about 6 psi twin turbo setup if I recall. However, they went out of bidness because people who just didn't understand bitched that their prices were too high. They had no idea the kind of value they were getting and people were too used to bolt on superchargers.

Just my $.02

[5point_Slow]

V8 n00b here, what do you use to stroke the 351W into a 429? I know you can use another crank (don't know which one) in a 302 and you get the 347 stroker.
They make kits for the 427 and 347 strokers. I was looking at a 347 stroker short block thats all put together all you need is upper and lower intakes, heads, and a cam. As for the crank you can either order one or i guess you could try to find an old 427 in the junk yard and yank it out. Was told thoes 427s dont hold out too long tho and that a 412 would be better choice if it going to be driven at all. Hey hogz do you happen to live in springdale?

[HogZ]

Nope, I live in Bentonville.

[John02Hawk]

turbos usually make more power, . . . even though i like chargers better

[04Mazda6s]

Originally posted by John02Hawk@Jan 18 2004, 06:35 PM
turbos usually make more power, . . . even though i like chargers better
it depends on the setup. Blown 351+'s can make a shitload more power than 2 turbo's on the same setup. But on a 4 cyc. its the opposite. I like em both, but a blower or the whinning sound just gets to me. So does a nice BOV too though.

[5point_Slow]

The fastest car ive seen is running 5's with a supercharger :o . Will get 5.0 mag out in the morning and say who the drive is.

[psikillz]

I'll let you know. I originally had a Vortech S-trim on my Mustang. My car was pretty fun with the Vortech. I had quite a few bolt-ons, however the engine (heads, cam, intake etc) were stock. The best 1000ft time I ever got out of it was a 10.4@102 on drag radials. You can't go wrong with an SC.


I'm currently in the process of switching to a turbo, along with a 337 R302 based stroker motor. I should have it running in the next couple of months. It's been apart over a year, so it's about time!



Cobra50. Nice car. :) I have a white 94 cobra, looks almost identical.

[5point_Slow]

Cobra50. Nice car. I have a white 94 cobra, looks almost identical.
thanks, have you seen my car around tho? It's not my avatar btw just similar

[drewgray]

Originally posted by Maliwho97@Jan 14 2004, 03:33 PM
Thats fo damn sho. I've seen a camaro w/ a turbo mounted at the rear differential, underneath the car, w/ 3" ran from the manifolds collector to the back. That saved having to make a manifold. Then, the chargepipe was ran all the way back up to the front. It was a nifty little setup. Hey Robert, I think Hugo w/ the yellow saleen at D&S Auto in lowell has a paxton or vortech supercharger setup for sale.....
Yeah, I have seen a write-up or 2 about that on LS1.com, Not many people thought it would work being that the turbo is mid-rear on the exhaust and the outlet piping was loooong back to the throttlebody. The developer said that it didn't need a intercooler because it was so long and the air would cool enough by the time it made it to the TB. Either way it made around 550hp i believe maybe more and that was on a very conservative tune
I say Turbocharge :thumbup:

[psikillz]

I have not, I actually live in Little Rock. I stopped by the board to check it out. Saw your post, so I thought I'd respond. Mine looks just like the one in your avatar, cobra R hood etc, I have chrome cobra R rims though.

My car originally came from NW Arkansas, I guess Rogers has an SVT dealer? I've had it since 1998, so it's been down here awhile.

See ya.

[5point_Slow]

There was an SVT dealer in rogers but he quit doing it this year. As for the body of my car its stock. I'm thinking about the 00' cobra R hood with the reverse vents

[95TSiEVO6GSR]

I think that superchargers work a lot more effectively on v8's. Id stick with a supercharger if I had a v8.

[Triepsyn]

Originally posted by 95TSiEVO6GSR@Feb 13 2004, 03:44 PM
I think that superchargers work a lot more effectively on v8's. Id stick with a supercharger if I had a v8.

Agreed. :thumbup:

About the SVT dealer: Bob Maloney Ford has a whole slew of SVT's... Check it out. www.BobMaloney.com