Anyone know how to make an Automatic Faster?

[Tibby]

Yo..As you know I wrecked the tiburon due to wreckless driving..those days are over..I'm now going to be more careful on the streets when wet. And Sometimes...When not wet. :)) Well anyways, i need to find out how to make an automatic as fast as a 5-speed. I know I can probably convert the auto to stick, but i dont want to do that. I might throw in a sports shifter which My friend said that his uncle's prelude beat his civic and his uncle has a sports shifter in there. If you guys could give me any suggustions, that would be great.


RedShark

[5point_Slow]

get a high stall/torque converter and a shift kit.

[Tibby]

Sounds good..how much do they cost with installation?

[5point_Slow]

depends on the car. Call some tranny shops and get some quotes. One of my friends got a trans go shift kit and a 3000 stall in his camaro and i think it ran under $300 for install.

[Tibby]

Awesome. Do you know any around here?

[hazard]

10 stage auto tranny upgrade...(i think that's what they're called) it's used on drag cars, but i cost a grip. probably around like 10k...lol

[5point_Slow]

ill give my friend a call and see here he got his done.

[Tibby]

Sounds good...Thanks to the both of you :maliwho:

[Mr. Merk]

the aftermarket for your auto compared to a camaro auto is.........i dunno if there is one

i heard that you can "loosen up" the converter to make it stall higher or something like that from a local pro (won the outlaw class at the last mokan shootout)

[notquiteahoe]

save yourself the hassle and get a 5 speed.

hazard, i believe you're thinking of a Level 10 rebuild.

i doubt there's a shift kit out there either..

[SmokeyTheBear]

sell it and buy a car with a 5 speed in it. fastest way and easiest way to make an auto faster.

[fahrfrumwurkin55]

^ x2

[420octane]

:laugh:

[wretched_z]

You need to get your valve body upgraded or rebuilt and a high stall torque converter which level ten can do both.

[hazard]

Originally posted by abrasivecarbide@Jan 8 2005, 07:06 PM
save yourself the hassle and get a 5 speed.

hazard, i believe you're thinking of a Level 10 rebuild.

i doubt there's a shift kit out there either..
yes exactly....stupid me couldn't remember what it was called...

[StreetLethalCamaro]

In reality, an automatic is faster than a manual in a straight line if the car is a really fast drag racing machine.....however, you'd have to mod the hell out of your to get to that point.

Like everyone said, you're better off getting a manual. You'll get a bit better gas milage and besides, a manual is more fun IMHO (but i don't have one :( )

[SmokeyTheBear]

they are faster, but, they have more hp and torque lose than a manual, worse gas mileage, and you can't take it to where you want to shift. manual > auto any day.

[Tibby]

I think I might just do what Agressivecarbide said..Save the hassle and buy a 5 speed...I might buy a Domestic like a Camaro F body or Z28, Or even SS if the insurance isnt too high...I really want a car with a 6 speed if I can find one. if I dont sell my car, I'm going to have problems with it in the future because it's been in 2 wrecks. If i ever go back to Imports, its either going to have a 6 Cyl. or a Boxer Engine. :2thumbsup:

[StreetLethalCamaro]

Originally posted by Redshark_Tibby@Jan 9 2005, 10:42 PM
I think I might just do what Agressivecarbide said..Save the hassle and buy a 5 speed...I might buy a Domestic like a Camaro F body or Z28, Or even SS if the insurance isnt too high...I really want a car with a 6 speed if I can find one. if I dont sell my car, I'm going to have problems with it in the future because it's been in 2 wrecks. If i ever go back to Imports, its either going to have a 6 Cyl. or a Boxer Engine. :2thumbsup:
Hell yeah...now you are talking. Few unmodified imports will beat a stock F-body in a straight line. 6 speeds are awesome...i don't have one, but i wish i did. The double over-drive rocks..you can run 4.10s and still get good gas milage...and i'm talking 20+ if you stay out of it(which is the hard part). If you want to go faster than stock, there is a huge aftermarket. The SBC has been around since the 50s....you can't hardly beat it's bang for buck. In the handling department, they aren't shabby. Yes, no doubt, there are better handling cars. But are you gonna put that to use? No. Not even people on here have races through twisties. The most "racing" you'll probably do is from stoplight to stoplight. In these situations, a domestic isn't easy to beat...that's what they are made for. However, beware, learn to handle your car. If you just stomp the gas at the lights, be ready to do some corrective streering because you are gonna be sliding and your rear tires will be rolling smoke. After being used to driving a FWD car with low torque, it'll be a big change to switch to a high-torque, RWD car.

Anyways, go for the F-body man :2thumbsup:

[75bird]

F-body is always the way to go and 6 speeds are bad ass i wish i had one because my friend has like 4:10 gears or something close and has a turbo to and still gets like 17 mpg i think :yes:

[75bird]

Originally posted by 75bird@Jan 10 2005, 02:05 PM
F-body is always the way to go and 6 speeds are bad ass i wish i had one because my friend has like 4:10 gears or something close and has a turbo to and still gets like 17 mpg i think :yes:

[StreetLethalCamaro]

That's easily possible. The 6-speed is double-over drive, so you aren't increasing your rpms when cruising all that much. It depends on the application as well. Check out STS turbo (http://www.ststurbo.com). They have a rear mounted turbo system and in most cases mpg increases or stays the same...turbos are pretty sweet. Stock LS1's with 6 speeds can get 25+mpg plus.

[Mr. Merk]

i've been helping a company on the east coast with measurements etc who is designing a T56 conversion for 2.3L T5 equipped vehicals, i'd like to be one of the demos

[Tibby]

American Will Always own import All Day anyways..:P..you can buy a 2005 honda Civic and take a 1993 TA And Kill the civic in a heart beat..American muscle is where the power is at..i found that out the hard way...I bought an import...Stupid me...Not that I'm against Imports..they look sharp..but they have very little HP...I mean come on...2.0L? Why not 5.7L? You get alot more tourqe out of it and a hell lot more HP! if I ever I mean EVER buy an Import again..it's going to be a McLaren F1 and I dont think I'll ever have the money for that...But i dont think I will want to Rice another Import out...And my father will respect me more if I buy an American Muscle car.. ;) I've been looking at the cars lately...But most are Automatics..i want a 6 speed.

[75bird]

i dont know where one would be but yur defenitely on the right track. :2thumbsup:

[SmokeyTheBear]

lol, redshark, you drive a tibby, that isn't a fast import by any means. ever heard of the evo?? or sti?? brand new vs brand new (price wise) they are about the same as a WS6 trans am or SS camaro. also, for what you would pay for like ummmm lets say, a 96 trans am, 6 speed, cloth interior, just a base trams am, you can buy, do some fairly decent mods and make a good amount of power from like a 96 civic HB shell. i don't think you should talk about what you don't know. yes stock for stock a TA or camaro is gonna out run them, but imports are cheaper, better on gas, the current craze, and have a good, decent priced aftermarket (ever look at full exhaust for TA or camaro?? SLP Loudmouth (which is what i would buy sounds the best on a TA, i know, i had one, i was in a club w/ several people running them) and i think they were around 600 bucks, my custom cat back was 220 installed w/ muffler from ebay)

[00Exploder]

Yea, you tried to compare a bad ass muscle car with a VERY basic import. Not by ANY means a FAST car stock.

[John]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure James Gibbons car can beat alot of cars around here as far as muscle cars go...

Oh yeah, I read somewhere that you were gonna buy and STi when you sold your Tiburon...

exactly how do you sell a car for 4-7K and then turn around and buy a 33,000$ car?? i dont think the math works...

James Gibbons STi = pwn me............


til 70mph when the Ls1 shines through! ;)

[Tibby]

Originally posted by Pseudo@Jan 27 2005, 09:45 PM
lol, redshark, you drive a tibby, that isn't a fast import by any means. ever heard of the evo?? or sti?? brand new vs brand new (price wise) they are about the same as a WS6 trans am or SS camaro. also, for what you would pay for like ummmm lets say, a 96 trans am, 6 speed, cloth interior, just a base trams am, you can buy, do some fairly decent mods and make a good amount of power from like a 96 civic HB shell. i don't think you should talk about what you don't know. yes stock for stock a TA or camaro is gonna out run them, but imports are cheaper, better on gas, the current craze, and have a good, decent priced aftermarket (ever look at full exhaust for TA or camaro?? SLP Loudmouth (which is what i would buy sounds the best on a TA, i know, i had one, i was in a club w/ several people running them) and i think they were around 600 bucks, my custom cat back was 220 installed w/ muffler from ebay)
Where the hell am i going to get the money for that? :P LOL I can barely make payments on my tiburon...so im pretty much screwed. :laugh:

[Vette666]

6 speeds are the best! :thumbup:

also, for what you would pay for like ummmm lets say, a 96 trans am, 6 speed, cloth interior, just a base trams am, you can buy, do some fairly decent mods and make a good amount of power from like a 96 civic HB shell. i don't think you should talk about what you don't know. yes stock for stock a TA or camaro is gonna out run them, but imports are cheaper, better on gas, the current craze, and have a good, decent priced aftermarket (ever look at full exhaust for TA or camaro?? SLP Loudmouth (which is what i would buy sounds the best on a TA, i know, i had one, i was in a club w/ several people running them) and i think they were around 600 bucks, my custom cat back was 220 installed w/ muffler from ebay)

u may can add parts to the civic and add a little power for what it would cost to buy a TA, but i don't see w/the difference being able to add enough hp to keep up w/it. plus the TA is going to be going a whole diff route than the honda, TA's can have a nice rumble and be pretty mean. a honda will go the completely opposite direction...

exhaust for my mustang convertible (v6 car) cost me about $850 altogether and thats getting it installed for only $50. but it was a BORLA...

exhaust for my corvette will be about $2,000, but if i add headers w/it (which i will) it'll be closer to $3,500-4,000

Oh yeah, I read somewhere that you were gonna buy and STi when you sold your Tiburon...

exactly how do you sell a car for 4-7K and then turn around and buy a 33,000$ car?? i dont think the math works...



i sold a $15,000 car and bought a $50,000+ car. its possible ;)

[StreetLethalCamaro]

Originally posted by Pseudo@Jan 27 2005, 08:45 PM
lol, redshark, you drive a tibby, that isn't a fast import by any means.* ever heard of the evo??* or sti??* brand new vs brand new (price wise) they are about the same as a WS6 trans am or SS camaro.* also, for what you would pay for like ummmm lets say, a 96 trans am, 6 speed, cloth interior, just a base trams am, you can buy, do some fairly decent mods and make a good amount of power from like a 96 civic HB shell.* i don't think you should talk about what you don't know.* yes stock for stock a TA or camaro is gonna out run them,* but imports are cheaper, better on gas, the current craze, and have a good, decent priced aftermarket (ever look at full exhaust for TA or camaro??* SLP Loudmouth (which is what i would buy sounds the best on a TA, i know, i had one, i was in a club w/ several people running them) and i think they were around 600 bucks, my custom cat back was 220 installed w/ muffler from ebay)
ever heard of the evo??* or sti??* brand new vs brand new (price wise) they are about the same as a WS6 trans am or SS camaro.

Not at all, considering they don't make f-bodies anymore. You'd have to buy a used one, which is considerably cheaper....but yeah, if the f-bodies were still around, they'd probably be fairly close in price.


* i don't think you should talk about what you don't know.

I was talking about them. I would by no means call myself an f-body expert, but i own 2 of them. ;)


you can buy, do some fairly decent mods and make a good amount of power from like a 96 civic HB shell.

And after the "current craze", he's still going to be driving a civic that is slower than an f-body. ;)


F-bodies with 6-speeds get decent gas milage...with my car's orginal motor, it got 26 mpgs between north-east arkansas and fayetteville...not bad at all, considering all the hills...going up hills, i didn't have to give it much gas at all....all the torque was readily available.

And are you comparing brand-new exhaust with what you bought off e-bay? not a good comparsion.

Anyways, as i said in other posts, i'm a bit drunk on this night.....and i'm just on a DOMESTIC WAR-PATH!!!!!!! WOOT! ;)

[John]

I went from a 2,000$ car to a 33,000$ car...but I didn't pay for it...

[busybee]

Sorry to break it to you but you just can't make an automatic faster it's not possible. Don't worry though your car is really cute though.

[StreetLethalCamaro]

Originally posted by busybee@Feb 10 2005, 04:24 PM
Sorry to break it to you but you just can't make an automatic faster it's not possible. Don't worry though your car is really cute though.
Yes you can. You can make any car faster.

And alot of drag car runs automatics. I don't feel liking going into detail, but this has to do with being able to get much more consistant launches, among other things. Anyways, if anyone feels like going into greater detail on the topics of autos, go for it.

[John]

Basically, sell your car and find yourself a Civic Hatch that has a good motor...I choose b18c5 because ITR motors pwn me.

[John]

of course that would hafta be swapped but Vegas can do it and getchu a good b18 for good price.

[StreetLethalCamaro]

Originally posted by GTO_John@Feb 10 2005, 08:31 PM
Basically, sell your car and find yourself a Civic Hatch that has a good motor...I choose b18c5 because ITR motors pwn me.
Or you could build my MULLET RAGE street car. ;)


Out of curosity, what would a civic with a B18 swap run in the 1/4?

[John]

I read somewhere like high 13s...but I may be wrong...

[John]

No, i'm pretty sure I'm wrong...ask KT...I think he's running a JDM ITR engine in his hatch.

[StreetLethalCamaro]

Originally posted by GTO_John@Feb 10 2005, 08:52 PM
No, i'm pretty sure I'm wrong...ask KT...I think he's running a JDM ITR engine in his hatch.
I don't know KT, so you, or someone else will have to ask. ;)