Project GTP Continues! - *Updated:04/24/2005*

[John02Hawk]

Well, for those who do not already know, I bought a 2000 Black Supercharged 3.8L 240hp V6 Grand Prix GTP Coupe on Monday (7/26/04) This car is going to work great for the next months while I finish buying furniture for the new house, hopefully getting my "better/new" car in 6-8 months. I will still keep the GTP as my daily car... it's just too bad that I still don't have the firehawk <_<

Anyways, the car needs a little work and here is what I am doing:

1. replacing both headlight units - so I can see lol
2. replacing the driver's side cracked tail light
3. replacing the entire front bumper
4. change the supercharger fluid
5. needs new brakes within the next month or two
6. new tires (hopefully wheels too) within the next month or two

It's in my signiture, but parts should be arriving today and tomorrow and in the next 2 days I will install these parts:

1. 3.40 supercharger pulley with a modular pulley system
2. Wizaired CAI - supposedly the best you can buy
3. U-Bend Exhaust Delete
4. 180 Thermostat
5. colder plugs

And soon to come:

6. Intercooler + 2.8 Supercharger Pulley
7. TOG Headers

With those mods it should run about a 13.50 1/4 mile, maybe better if I had better tires! :w00t:

That's it for now, wish me luck with my project !

:2thumbsup:

[5point_Slow]

take it to the track one you modded it and see what it runs

[Triepsyn]

Very nice John. Good buy. Good mods. :2thumbsup:

[5point_Slow]

i wanna go for a ride once you get em on too

[John02Hawk]

7/31/2004

5% Tint Installed

8/1/2004

3.40 Pulley Installed / New Gatorback Belt Installed

http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/96149/Pulley_Installed_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/96149/Pulley_Installed_Big.jpg)

[Bowens99GT]

awesome.....hows the pulley feel?

[5point_Slow]

me: get a gatorback belt
John: no i got something better
me: oh ok well there badass belts

^picture 3.40 Pulley Installed / New Gatorback Belt Installed

[John02Hawk]

8/2/2004

New idler pulley and new GM belt installed

1 day old ruined Gatorback belt removed along with old lower idler pulley

The old idler pulleys was basically worn off, and was tearing up my new belt.

[John02Hawk]

<center>8/2/2004

The 2000 Grand Prix GTP's First Photo Shoot !
Click to view larger photos!

http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture1%7E1.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture1%7E1.jpg)http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture2%7E2.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture2%7E2.jpg)http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture3%7E1.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture3%7E1.jpg)http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture4%7E1.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture4%7E1.jpg)http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture5%7E2.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture5%7E2.jpg)
http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture6%7E4.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture6%7E4.jpg)http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture7%7E4.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture7%7E4.jpg)http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture8%7E3.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture8%7E3.jpg)http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_picture9%7E3.jpg (http://www.nwaimports.com/gallery2/albums/userpics/10001/picture9%7E3.jpg)



:thumbup: </center>

[John02Hawk]

8/2/2004

Replaced both passenger and drivers' side headlamp lenses with new factory headlamps.

[2quick4u]

Let me know if you need help. There's a ton you can do to the series 2 motor. Your ultimately limited by your transmission, around 300 horse. After that your imput shaft has a tendancey to snap. Can't heat treat it either. I can get you in the 13's pretty easy though, without that much money. There is another tranny for it, but a little expensive.

[Mr. Merk]

those are the exact rims that used to be on karen's camaro

[TripleZero]

Tranny Limited to 300 Horse?! LOL Omg I can't believe someone told you this. The GTP has a HD (Heavy Duty) Transmission in it. I know you've been reading our forum a lot. Rarely trannys need to be replaced due to mods (Unless they're hardcore tranny mods) Don't listen to a Neon owner. Stick with the people who KNOW what they're talking about when it comes to GM
lol ... I always laugh when I see a neon

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by TripleZero@Aug 3 2004, 07:15 AM
Don't listen to a Neon owner. Stick with the people who KNOW what they're talking about when it comes to GM
lol ... I always laugh when I see a neon
:doh: shut your mouth, you dont know james, what he's had, or what he can do, you're awfully brave coming on to a forum and bad mouthing in your first post

james had a supercharged park avenue on the bottle, it wasnt slow

[2quick4u]

Well i called and talked to people all around the country as i was getting ready to rebuild my 3.8 but after my tranny going out and making many more calls i had all my parts heat-treated except the part that broke, which there is nothing i could do about it. Trust me, i called sources out of gm magazines, i loved that p.o.s. i had.

[TripleZero]

wow a supercharged land yaught on the bottle... Bottle is cheap horsepower for F&F kids who know nothing else. Check your GM sources again. AND part numbers to top it off on Grand prix transmissions. one even says HD. gah i love "know it alls"
And I don't care how brave you think I am. Forums are for opinions. My opinion is not to listen to a neon owner. Cause chryslers suck. You all can bash me all you want for my comments. Your Types mean nothing. But when you start trying to comment on a vehicle you know jack shit about.. Expect for someone to correct you. Plain and simple.

[Merk'sGirl]

Originally posted by Mr. Merk@Aug 3 2004, 02:58 AM
those are the exact rims that used to be on karen's camaro
Yeah, they are, what size are those?

[BDP]

Perhaps some peeps on here need to take it to the track cause it seems there are penile issues?

[2quick4u]

Well John is my buddy so i wouldnt tell him something if it wasnt true. Hd only holds an extra 20 horse, thats why in my opinion its not worth the money. On the other note, if you relly think you know what your talking about then come out in the open and tell us about yourself, ride, mods, etc. Even if you dont know, your still welcome to join us without making a flame war out of suggestions.

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by TripleZero@Aug 3 2004, 06:02 PM
gah i love "know it alls"
such as yourself

Forums are for opinions. My opinion is not to listen to a neon owner. Cause chryslers suck.

we never bashed anyone, that was you, however right you are about opinions, THIS forum is not too keen on people being assholes and bashing other members, i realize a lot of other forums are filled with bashing and flames and people with the heads way up their own asses but we aim not to conform to that immature nature, please be respectful, PLEASE

[TripleZero]

we never bashed anyone, that was you, however right you are about opinions, THIS forum is not too keen on people being assholes and bashing other members, i realize a lot of other forums are filled with bashing and flames and people with the heads way up their own asses but we aim not to conform to that immature nature, please be respectful, PLEASE

Acknowledged.

I'll work on my flaming :P

[DSMgsx]

John, Nice car, I understand the feeling of "Wish I still had the Firehawk", 'cause I wish I still had the Cobra. Whether or not it is totaled is still up in the air. If I get the H2, I found a Whipple S/C kit for it. We will see, another sports car is not out of the question.

[John02Hawk]

U-Bend Delete Installed - 8/7/2004

Before:
http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/U_Bend_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/U_Bend_Big.jpg)

After:
http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/U_Bend_Delete_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/U_Bend_Delete_Big.jpg)

:2thumbsup:

[2quick4u]

Did it change the sound any? Did you get headers too? They advertise the headers good for 20 horse, probably does.

[TripleZero]

1. 3.40 supercharger pulley with a modular pulley system
2. Wizaired CAI - supposedly the best you can buy
3. U-Bend Exhaust Delete
4. 180 Thermostat
5. colder plugs

And soon to come:

6. Intercooler + 2.8 Supercharger Pulley
7. TOG Headers

With those mods it should run about a 14.00 flat 1/4 mile, maybe better if I had better tires!

Should be faster than 14's. Why did you go with the TOG headers and not the SLP?
o yea and without pulling the motor, headers are a bitch to install on our cars. Damn man you're modding fast. Makin me jealous :thumbup:

[John02Hawk]

8/11/04

Wizaired CAI Installed

Before:
http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/96149/Stock_Intake_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/96149/Stock_Intake_Big.jpg)

After:
http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/96149/Wizaired_CAI_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-4/96149/Wizaired_CAI_Big.jpg)

All I can say now is :o and :drool2:

:maliwho:

[Triepsyn]

:thumbup: Very nice! :drool2:

[Benji]

Nice John, looking good! B)

Now you need two of the big bottles! :o

[TripleZero]

Lol Benji what is with you and the bottles?

Lookin good John. I ordered more suspension parts the other day, I'll let ya know how they turn out

[5point_Slow]

coilovers?

[TripleZero]

Not yet, workin on it. Probably next month. Got the trailing arms (since I bent one)

[John02Hawk]

8/16/2004

Replaced old/cracked drivers' side rear tail light.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/Left_Rear_Tail_Light.jpg

B)

[TripleZero]

I need updated pix john.. I wanna see the wheels.

[John02Hawk]

Sorry guys, I've gotten a little behind on keeping this updated :?

8/19/2004

Front bumper replaced

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/1999_Front_Bumper.jpg


8/22/2004

New 18x8 Mille Miglia Evo Wheels

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/millemiglia/mm_evo_s.jpg (http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/DisplayWheel.jsp?wheelMake=Mille+Miglia&wheelModel=Evo5&wheelFinish=Bright+Silver+Paint)

New Goodyear GS-D3 245/45/18 Tires

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/goodyear/gy_eagle_f1_gsd3_ci2_s.jpg (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3)

New vs. Old

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/New_vs_Old_Wheels_Tires_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/New_vs_Old_Wheels_Tires_Big.jpg)

^_^

[John02Hawk]

8/28/2004

Digital Horsepower PCM - Installed

http://www.pfyc.com/store/graphics/new/gp3012.jpg

Available for 1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix SE (3.8L only), GT and GTP, and developed with the average 3800 enthusiast in mind, this PCM has been designed and dynamometer tested and proven for the following modifications:

-3.4" - 3.25" pulley (Grand Prix GTP only)
-Cold air induction system (any brand)
-Cat-back exhaust system (any brand)
-Premium fuel (91 octane or higher is required)

FEATURES:

-Speed limiter removed
-3-1 and 4-2 skip shifts
-Transmission line pressure increased
-Shift points moved (5800-6000rpms)
-Fan turn on points altered as follows:
-186 degree F turn on
-2 minute fan on at key-off (this feature activates when engine coolant is 179 degrees or greater)
-MAF calibration adjusted for proper year
-Fuel/spark adjustments as follows:
-Enrichens fuel delivery for critical problem areas
-Provides a consistent power gain across the entire power band
-Reduces spark retard (knock retard)
-Removes "40MPH WOT lag"
-Dynamometer testing has shown up to 20 HP gain in 60 degree temperatures


:P

:D

:2thumbsup:

[Mr. Merk]

nice :thumbup:

[TripleZero]

Now you need to lower it

[Triepsyn]

http://www.nwaimports.com/forums/uploads/post-28-1093843212.jpg

:o Very nice! :2thumbsup:

:nwams: :clap:

[5point_Slow]

blackouts and coilovers john :D

[Ricky_Rockstah]

We need to do some highway runs :shiftingfun:

cause I think it'd be fun to see how close our cars were performance-wise/ speed wise.

[John02Hawk]

9/18/2004

Installed TR6 Spark Plugs - Gapped to .55

http://www.xtremeperformancestores.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ngk_small.jpg



Installed 180° Thermostat

http://zzperformance.com/images/thermostat_180_180.jpg

[John02Hawk]

10/03/2004

ZZP Intercooler Installed

http://zzperformance.com/products_img/234_1.jpg

TR6 Plugs removed, replaced with Autolite 103s

http://www.zzperformance.com/images/autolite_spark_plug_copper.jpg

Custom Shift Kit Installed

[John02Hawk]

10/07/2004

3.4 Pulley removed, replaced with a 3.0 Pulley

http://www.intense-racing.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/imp_150.jpg

10/08/2004

3" Downpipe, resonator and cat. removed

[Mays]

dang dude...I had no idea you were putting on mods so fast...innercooled...you're not playing around :2thumbsup: Do you have a pulley puller? or do you have a modular pulley system? lookin great dude, :D

[Mr. Merk]

oh damn, looks like i'm gonna have to pull some tricks out of my ass


yay for intercooler and autolites, i've got mine gapped at 30, lol

within the next week i'll have another ported/polished D-port head, but this time with a FMS a237 roller cam and stainless big valves, also mopar 52lb injectors, 180*stat and MAYBE my "N-tercooler" wired up

john it looks like i'm gonna have to not do the "street tune" after all at mokan

[Triepsyn]

Any news on Project GTP? :D

[fooman03]

how much power are you putting out right now.

[John02Hawk]

Originally posted by Triepsyn+Oct 25 2004, 04:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Triepsyn @ Oct 25 2004, 04:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Any news on Project GTP? :D [/b]
Not now, but very soon . . . :w00t:

<!--QuoteBegin-fooman03@Oct 25 2004, 04:42 PM
how much power are you putting out right now. [/quote]
Hopefully around 250-260 FWHP on a dyno... I should be running mid 13s in the ¼ mile. :thumbup:

[BDP]

your GTP is comming along nicely John... I now know where you were most of the time the beginning of the month when you were always dissapearing for days :D

[John02Hawk]

11/6/2004

Mini AFC 2.0 (http://zzperformance.com/zzp/products/engine/mini_afc_20.htm) Installed

http://zzperformance.com/images/prod/electrical/mini_afc_2_box1.jpg

http://zzperformance.com/images/prod/electrical/mini_afc_20b.jpg

1st Dyno Results: 253.5 HP / 356.5 TQ

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/John00GTP_Dyno_11_6_2004.jpg

:maliwho:

[fooman03]

sweeetttt :2thumbsup:

btw what are you shooting for in the future number wise?

[John02Hawk]

11/20/2004 - Purchased Race/Track Tires

Nitto 555R 245-50-16 Tires (front)

http://nittotire.com/img/img_555r_3.jpg (http://nittotire.com/tires_555r.asp) http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/Nitto_555R_245_50_16_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/Nitto_555R_245_50_16_Big.jpg)

Goodyear RS-A 245-50-16 Tires (rear)

http://www.ststire.com/tires/images/gy_eagle_rs_a.jpg (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+RS-A) http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/Goodyear_RS_A_245_50_16_Small.jpg (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/Goodyear_RS_A_245_50_16_Big.jpg)

[TripleZero]

I'm Bumping this because we should have some news soon :))

[John02Hawk]

4/16/04

Full Race Transmission Installed

- Torque Converter 3000 stall
-3.29 gears
-Limited Slip Differential
-ZZP Input Shaft
-ZZP Hardened 4th clutch shaft
-Street/Strip Shift kit
-L32 Drilled Flywheel

http://zzperformance.com/products_img/150_1.jpg

http://zzperformance.com/products_img/133_1.jpg

4/17/05

-Installed Upgraded Computer
-Installed Comp Cam #105 springs

:2thumbsup:

[turboXR]

Thur ya go

[SmokeyTheBear]

damn. what are you expecting your new times to be??

[5point_Slow]

sounds like its time to get cammed

[John02Hawk]

Originally posted by Pseudo@Apr 19 2005, 08:53 AM
damn. what are you expecting your new times to be??
Low 13s in the 1/4 mile..

B)

[Mr. Merk]

sweet man!

[SmokeyTheBear]

i think you may be able to hit high 12s. i imagine you have trouble hooking up a bit lol.

[John02Hawk]

4/24/2005

-Installed Dual/Dual Corsa Exhaust Tips

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/Corsa001_Smallest.JPG

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/152578/Corsa.JPG

B)

[SmokeyTheBear]

looks clean and i bet it sounds even better.

[Mr. Merk]

beautiful

[TripleZero]

Bout time :P

[Tibby]

We should Race...When I get rid of the Tiburon! :laugh:

[1meanTA]

lovin it john...cant wait to see what it runs!

[75bird]

i like the dual tips looks good :yes:

[Mr. Merk]

i saw it on 540, looked nice

[Bowens99GT]

Everythings moving along nicely john.....doubt it hits 12's b/c of the weight but It'll hit a good low 13 sec run if ya can get traction!