H22 into EG HB

[SmokeyTheBear]

yeah well my dad won't let me get another TA and i don't want a probe due to the lack of aftermarket parts (i still love probes, don't get me wrong) and my dad wants me to get something with good gas mileage. i guess it is time for me to get and keep a honda. i figure after i work all summer and save everything, i should have close to $2,000 (maybe less, maybe more who knows) but i want an EG civic HB (i believe it is EG, the 92-95 correct??) and was thinking about buying and swaping out the motor the end of summer/begining of next school year (august september ish) and was wondering if it would be extremely difficult. if so, what would the main problem be (like motor mounts) etc etc. if i do decided to do this, i will need some help and wouldn't want the car out of commission for more than
3-4 days tops. ideas or suggestions (you know maybe not an H22, i want one cuz they are a more torquey motor than a b18 or b16.) anyway all help would be great and i really appreciate how much help i got on the last HB question i had (thank you again brock)

[bigfoot]

well being an owner of an eg hatch (and yes 92-95 is eg) most difficult part on that swap would be the wiring, hasport,place racing,and enjo makes a bolt in kit and so do a few others, one thing i will advise is if you do do this swap, if i was you cause at one time i was going to do this swap and put in some research onm the subject i would go with enjo b/c not only do they make a bolt in kit they also make the axles you will need, other wise you will have to make your own and i can tell you right now thats not a good idea cause i have talked to alot of people that did it that way for money reasons and they snapped in very quickly cause of the angle there at. as for the whole understeer thing that you might read about its a load of b/s cause most of them had aftermarket coilovers made for the civic and not one with an h22 so to solve that just get a good set of coilovers for an integra and you will solve that problem. a good place to do your own reasearch is www.hondaswap.com and just normal searching, hondaswap is great cause thats where i got most of my info. if i can help anymore just let me know and i will do my best to help and if not me ask brock he know just as much as i do on hatchs

[SmokeyTheBear]

awesome man thanks for the help. that is a huge help and i have been trying to find a website with that kind of info like hondaswap.com. again thanks for the help and i really hope i can do this cuz it would be bad ass swap.

[Mr. Merk]

i'm telling you this right now, buy an EX, thats going to make the wiring A LOT easier :yes:

[TRedlineCRX]

Ur car will be out of commisson for more that 3-4 days unless u pay someone that knows what the hell there doing allready. Cuz theres allways some stupid ass little thing that gets forgotten and takes for ever 2 get when ur doing something like that.

[SmokeyTheBear]

well i would LIKE it to be out only 3-4 days due to the fact that i work. but if it is out more than that, i wouldn't mind. btw if i did do this, anyone wanna help ^_^ ^_^ ?? i posted that post at school and didn't have much time to check out hondaswap.com so i will be reading that most of tonite and part of tomorrow.

[SmokeyTheBear]

alright another ? what kind of wiring is there to do?? is it super complicated?? and do you know of any sites that sell the JDM motors with a good rep??

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by Pseudo@May 26 2004, 10:40 PM
alright another ? what kind of wiring is there to do?? is it super complicated?? and do you know of any sites that sell the JDM motors with a good rep??
CSE sells JDM motors, and does the swaps :thumbup:

[SmokeyTheBear]

really?? how much would that be and where is it located??

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by Pseudo@May 26 2004, 10:52 PM
really?? how much would that be and where is it located??
its Vegas' shop, on Poplar in faytown, call him, 443-4055

[Triepsyn]

Check out www.NWAImports.com/shops.html :thumbup:

[Maliwho97]

Fuck H22a in a hatch, everyone I know that has that swap says its tooooo much of a pain in the ass, and it never goes smoothly. I would really like to see more boost around here. I'd recommend getting a cheap LS motor out of an integra, swap it in your car, build a B16 head for it, and run LS/VTEC, or just keep the car non-vtec and boost the hell out of the LS! You should be able to find a good clean LS swap for $800 max, then build a turbo kit for $2000 or LS/VTEC it w/ a built B16 head for about $1200.

[TRedlineCRX]

Im with brock about the turbo thing but it would also be cool being the only hatch with an H22 around here.

[SmokeyTheBear]

well i said in my first post, if you didn't think the swap was a good idea, then tell me what would be easier. brock you know how much i would LOVE to do an LS/VTEC swap but i have no idea wtf to do. (i read how and what to do on HondaSwap.com and was like super super super lost lol) can you buy the LS/VTEC put together?? what all is entailed in the turbo kit?? like is there a boost controller, intercooler etc etc and where is this at??

[Mr. Merk]

Originally posted by TRedlineCRX@May 27 2004, 07:37 PM
Im with brock about the turbo thing but it would also be cool being the only hatch with an H22 around here.
i agree, do turbo LS man!

there are going to be more H22 hatches around soon :ohyeah:

[SmokeyTheBear]

you can find turbo kits on ebay right?? everytime i look all i see is the electric "superchargers" that restrict air.

[Maliwho97]

I will leave you at this... If you are REALLY serious, let me know, and I will sit down, build your motor on paper w/ prices, and build the best turbo kit that you can get for your money..... Let me know.

[SmokeyTheBear]

i am serious, i really want to do this it is just the money that is the main problem. i am hoping my dad will wanna get involved and help out a bit.

[Maliwho97]

Do some persuading, and let me know man. :D

[SmokeyTheBear]

have not talked to my dad much yet about it. still trying to get an EG period. (should be able to get 5 speed in good condition for >1500) but it is a maybe right now.

[I8ayellowcrayon]

Originally posted by MerkurV6Truck@May 26 2004, 11:03 AM
i'm telling you this right now, buy an EX, thats going to make the wiring A LOT easier :yes:
VTEC requires three wires last time I checked ;) Not worth paying more for an EX if you're going to throw away the engine anyways. Insurance would be a little more than a DX/VX too. Honda is so broad now, you can find bolt in kits like nothing else, even from non-VTEC to VTEC or OBD1-OBD0/2 harnesses....

I don't know if I misunderstood or what, but you aren't going to get an EG and put an H22 in there for $2000 legally :P There is a pretty sharp EG HB in Farmington, I can give you directions if you want. $2400 I think.

[SmokeyTheBear]

really?? i may go and check it out. hook me up with some directions. you know how much mileage it has?? is there a phone number?? can you give me some more info please?? my mom wants to go check it out so i may go down there after work today :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: thanks for help man, i really appreciate it. NWAi guys rock (and girls lol)

[SmokeyTheBear]

I8ayellowcrayon please post or PM me some directions. i really wanna go see it if it is still there. pretty please

[SmokeyTheBear]

what is a CRVTEC?? i have been reading and people have been saying it is a stronger build. anyone know anything about these?? a lot of people are bagging on the LS/VTEC due to oil problems. i need something that will be a good daily driver so it is a maybe on the turbo but i can def. get/build the motor by the end of the summer.

[Maliwho97]

Fuck that, go LS/VTEC, if you build it right, there are no oil problems. CRVTEC has an undesireable rod/stroke ratio. The LS has a shorter deck height, more of a square motor. You can take the B18, bore it or sleeve it to an 84.5mm, and have larger displacement than a 2.0, with the close rod/stroke ratio which is better for high revving. If you build the LS/VTEC properly and boost it, you have a hard to beat combination..... :D